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  1. #11
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    Originally Posted by We.the.North Go to original post
    I'll agree to a leaver's penalty the day 100% of my matches starts at the very start with 8 players.
    You have always been able to quit penalty free in the first 30 seconds of any match though. That completely covers your option to refuse to play a match that is already in progress if you so wish.
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    If ranked mode had a viable population I'd say leave it as it is, certainly because ranked mode also does without great score and as long as there is a place people can always have their character of choice in casual single pick isn't as bad a thing as it would be otherwise.

    Problem is that is not a viable population and while the argument is there that this is casual play, the casual play of people who stick in games should be more of a priority than those who decide that they would rather find a new game than see a close one out the moment it turns and most who do quit as far as i have seen so so from that losing position so something, whether changing the ai or reintroducing this needs to be done until such a time that ranked is more viable. Right now it is at the point I will only dominion as part of a group because of the number of times I have seen games become unwinnbable due to having a bot after the point a player will be put back in its place.

    And to be clear I am in no way saying that a person you care for should come second to a game, I work in care, it is a full attention thing when something is needed but i do think that those who constantly leave games for no reason other than they are losing need to be targeted in some way when ranked is not a viable alternative.
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    Here's a thought:
    If you know that you may have to leave at a moment's notice, if you don't know if you'll be able to sit through a full minute match without having to leave - Maybe don't play a team based competitive online multiplayer game, even in casual.

    I get that you want to play this game, and that in reality it's not at all like you're running out every match or anything like that. But if you are 'on call' so to speak there must be better games to play. Stuff where you don't disappoint a whole team or a whole match, stuff where you won't actually have to close down the entire game to lave for two minutes, stuff that doesn't take up quite as much of your attention, stuff that you maybe even won't have to pause to step away from?

    Sure, it sucks to get a 10 minute penalty for a silly thing like that. I felt it too when I accidentally stood still for too long and was kicked for inactivity. But that's the thing, if this happens sometimes to you for important reasons (or if you like me are just stupid) then it won't affect you that much. The people who will suffer from this change are the rage-quitters. Not only does leaving count as a loss, but it negates their defeatist "Why should I sit here and wait to lose"-argument and may even make them actually try to turn the game around instead.
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    Originally Posted by Halvtand Go to original post
    Here's a thought:
    If you know that you may have to leave at a moment's notice, if you don't know if you'll be able to sit through a full minute match without having to leave - Maybe don't play a team based competitive online multiplayer game, even in casual.

    I get that you want to play this game, and that in reality it's not at all like you're running out every match or anything like that. But if you are 'on call' so to speak there must be better games to play. Stuff where you don't disappoint a whole team or a whole match, stuff where you won't actually have to close down the entire game to lave for two minutes, stuff that doesn't take up quite as much of your attention, stuff that you maybe even won't have to pause to step away from?

    Sure, it sucks to get a 10 minute penalty for a silly thing like that. I felt it too when I accidentally stood still for too long and was kicked for inactivity. But that's the thing, if this happens sometimes to you for important reasons (or if you like me are just stupid) then it won't affect you that much. The people who will suffer from this change are the rage-quitters. Not only does leaving count as a loss, but it negates their defeatist "Why should I sit here and wait to lose"-argument and may even make them actually try to turn the game around instead.
    A response purely from the perspective of priviledge.
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    Originally Posted by HazelrahFirefly Go to original post
    A response purely from the perspective of priviledge.
    No, just a logical argument put forth politely. You don't know Halvtand's life so I would steer clear of assuming "priviledge" simply because he is putting forward his own opinion.
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    What if he has to leave or even just gets kicked for inactivity, but only has to go away for a few minutes? Comes back and has another five in which he can't play. You're being insensitive by even remotely suggesting that his dad might come second, or else should be accepting of the game punishment.
    Some simple thing could solve this problem. Reconnection system. If someone leave match, block MM to him for a 5min, and only option he have is to reconnect to the last game. If after 5min player still do not reconnet to the game, give him penalty for 30 min. Sometimes, when my teammate loose connection or have in-game error, I want to quit, just we could play together. But if he have chance to reconnect, everything would be great.=)
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    Originally Posted by SpaceJim12 Go to original post
    Some simple thing could solve this problem. Reconnection system. If someone leave match, block MM to him for a 5min, and only option he have is to reconnect to the last game. If after 5min player still do not reconnet to the game, give him penalty for 30 min. Sometimes, when my teammate loose connection or have in-game error, I want to quit, just we could play together. But if he have chance to reconnect, everything would be great.=)
    That's a pretty good solution in my opinion. If someone leaves then he can only re-enter back into the match they left or if it has finished then give them a 5-10 minute penalty. 30 minute bans would be too excessive.

    I think that would be fair enough to people who need to leave for an emergency but return in time to be put back into the same match.
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    Originally Posted by Vakris_One Go to original post
    That's a pretty good solution in my opinion. If someone leaves then he can only re-enter back into the match they left or if it has finished then give them a 5-10 minute penalty. 30 minute bans would be too excessive.

    I think that would be fair enough to people who need to leave for an emergency but return in time to be put back into the same match.
    And we need faction text there. Like "Crusade is not over yet, knight!", "Valhalla could wait, viking" and "No word about escape in Bushido, samurai" =)
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    I don't think bringing it back will change much close app would still work
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    Originally Posted by Devils-_-legacy Go to original post
    I don't think bringing it back will change much close app would still work
    Right now you can quit and instantly queue again. Closing the App means: loading up the game with it's annoying Splash Screens after every leave. That's at least a penalty.
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