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Is all the hate in the For Honor community that's directed at Shaman really warranted? I've just completed the story mode and I'm about 30 or more hours into the multiplayer and I plan to stay for a pretty long time. Game's super fun! I've also found myself attracted to the character that seems to be getting a **** ton of hate since her release which would obviously be Shaman. I see people calling her OP n then there are others saying the exact opposite and how people need to just adapt to her new fighting style. I've learned all of her ins and outs as a character and I love her theme, she's incredibly fun to play. I've gotten my first rep with her, and all over Youtube there's so much anger and hate. But whenever I play against a Shaman, I don't see a problem. After playing her for just enough to get Rep 1, I already know all of her tricks and what to expect. It's not like she's hard to fight so I don't understand why people are complaining about her. In the past, I've complained about Orochi and his 400ms lights, and I used to think he's OP. But of course, he definitely has his weaknesses like a lack of offense. And I'm more than happy to now go in and do my best to understand how he works and just how to break through Orochi's insane defensive capabilities. And please, I would appreciate to keep all the hate for me being a Shaman main out. It may even change, but for now she's the most enjoyable character to me and I'd like to keep other people's opinions of that out. Just an explanation as to why people just have so much hatred for the character.
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OP is a vague word, but what we can agree on is that in comparison to other heroes her kit is way more diverse and without any major drawbacks as a cost of that diversity (heck she can actually do most stuff better than the rest). FH is not a balanced game, and anyone claims so is delusional (which I doubt that there is anyone). Moreover some characters are more annoying to vs than others regardless of how strong they are. Seeing someone using cheesier characters will always lead to prejudice and nothing can be done about that until ubi manages to balance the game, which is very unlikely.
Real question is why does it bother you that the character is hated? People hate the character not you.
I also hate shaman purely based on how much further she can jump attack with crazy tracking. Any hero that can override positioning is annoying and takes away a lot from the game. They should normalize her jump attacks to be inline with rest of cast mechanics wise.
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You forget the bite damage and after the bite enemies can still attack you. Plus the bleed application is 50/50 move.Originally Posted by Mia.Nora Go to original post
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Well it bothers me because I don't enjoy using what everyone hates or considers OP. It makes me feel like I'm being cheesy, and especially getting hate for enjoying Shaman and her playstyle. I don't like playing on unfair advantages, and I'd rather have the disadvantage however I don't like WEAK characters. Bottom line is, I'm sure Shaman players get hate for their main and I know I have in duels and brawls. Furthermore, if she's considered a crutch, I'd rather not play her as it means I'm getting some help and that without her I'd be doing ****tier. Heck, I've been looking into a couple very different characters as mains simply because I'm sick of hearing all about how she's a cheesy ******** character to pick. I've thought of Gladiator, Highlander, and Shugoki who all have what I'm sure everyone could agree on are incredibly different playstyles but I'm told to stick with one character to a higher rep, but with all the hatred it's been bothering me so much I've considered switching to one of the aforementioned characters.
And I guess really when I look at this post it's more me questioning my decision to play Shaman, just because I enjoy a challenge more than playing with a crutch and ever since I've seen content on Shaman, it's put her in a whole new light and it's hard to play her without feeling dirty. This sounds more dramatic than I'm intending it to be. Oh well, yeah I just need some advice n help from some more experienced players with all this.
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I get it, I used to play PK because of her visuals and animations (I decided during trailers before I even touched the game) but with beta it had the same issue; she was universally hated. So I decided to alternate between her and Conq, for two reasons; they had extremely different play styles and helped me master different mechanics, and conq at the time was the worst bottom character.
If I got hate with PK, I would rematch with my conq, and it would feel good.
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If you feel cheesy because you're one of the top 3 characters in the game... it's probably because you're being cheesy.
I had Kensei at rep 15 before his buff, and I was good with him, he was my best character, then he got buffed to god tier and I stopped playing him pretty much altogether, because he's too easy to do well with and I felt like I was being cheesy, he's rep 16 now, barely played him since.
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If you feel cheesy because you're one of the top 3 characters in the game... it's probably because you're being cheesy.
I mean, correct me if I'm wrong but I've just looked at 4 tier lists and every single one of them didn't have Shaman placed in the S tier, but instead in the A tier giving me the idea that she's strong with some noticeable weaknesses, but could use tweaking or minor balance adjustments. Perhaps you're talking about her being one of the top 3 in dominion? My main game mode is 1v1 duels and 2v2 brawls I've never played Dominion and I don't necessarily plan on going into Dominion. Is she cheesy then in Brawl n' Duel to you? These 4 tier lists don't seem to state the same statistics:
https://rankedboost.com/for-honor/ti...-best-classes/
https://steamcommunity.com/app/30439...4439576302078/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gaY/edit#gid=0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq-2bHphWmM (https://prnt.sc/k4lezh Here is a screenshot of the tier list in case you don't wish to watch the video).
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Shaman gank ability is OP, there is pretty much nothing you can do if you get 2v1 against shaman, especially if her partner can also apply bleed. Assuming ofcourse, the enemies are not complete muppets.
Lot of the hate is still lingering from the relase, because in adition to "complete" kit, she also had grossly overtuned numbers and few of them still didnt get toned down as they should be.
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I only looked at the first link, but it said warden was 1st and nobushi was 2nd, so I assume you have no idea what you're talking about and didn't look at the others.Originally Posted by CHRlSTIAN.WOOD Go to original post
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