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[Charmzzz]

Don't understand why Assassins are the safest, easiest class to play in this game.

In games like League of Legends Assassins have a high risk, high reward, playstyle that can easily be countered by tanks or healers. 100-0 squishy targets if they are lefted by themselves. Only good at killing 1 person almost instantly and that's it.

But with For Honor, they have the fastest running speed, fastest attacks, safe unblockables that give guaranteed damage,super armor, and good mix ups. Only downside they have is there health pool and that is barely anything. Having a team full of Assassins should put your team at a disadvantage but in For Honor it isn't.

I feel bad for the new players who have to deal with all these assassins and assassin hybrids when they want to play a pure vanguard/tank who just get fed up with dying and pick one of the assassins just so they can enjoy the game.

Maybe I just play to many mobas but Assassins should not be the safest, easiest, strongest class in the game since release.

I don't know which game you play, but it is not For Honor...

Take a full Assassin Team and go against Raider, Lawbringer, Kensei and Conqueror. Have fun losing.

[ChampionRuby50g]

I don't know which game you play, but it is not For Honor...

Take a full Assassin Team and go against Raider, Lawbringer, Kensei and Conqueror. Have fun losing.

What’s your point? You chose 4 heroes out of 18. I’ve seen plenty of full assassin teams at my MMR come out on top. What if it’s a team of HL, Cent Shugo and Warlord? You can’t guarantee that the assassin team won’t win, so why are you acting that way?

[Charmzzz]

What’s your point? You chose 4 heroes out of 18. I’ve seen plenty of full assassin teams at my MMR come out on top. What if it’s a team of HL, Cent Shugo and Warlord? You can’t guarantee that the assassin team won’t win, so why are you acting that way?

My point is that people in this Thread claimed Assassins being OP, again, and that this is certainly not the case in 4v4 where static guard heroes, even those you mentioned, are superior to most Assassins. Full Assassin Teams mostly s*ck when it comes to Team Fights.

A Team of HL, Cent, Shugo and Warlord is superior to a Team of PK, Shinobi, Zerker and Shaman for example. The amount of unblockables, tankyness and Cutscenes is just better than 1-2 500ms Attacks more.

I cannot guarantee that the Assassins won't win, but on the same skill levels it is very likely that they lose.

[DrinkinMyStella]

im fine with fighting against assassins, when you kensei its an easy win for me.

[bananaflow2017]

My point is that people in this Thread claimed Assassins being OP, again, and that this is certainly not the case in 4v4 where static guard heroes, even those you mentioned, are superior to most Assassins. Full Assassin Teams mostly s*ck when it comes to Team Fights.

A Team of HL, Cent, Shugo and Warlord is superior to a Team of PK, Shinobi, Zerker and Shaman for example. The amount of unblockables, tankyness and Cutscenes is just better than 1-2 500ms Attacks more.

I cannot guarantee that the Assassins won't win, but on the same skill levels it is very likely that they lose.

I think the salt for the assasins is more theire 1v1 performance and the ability to let u sweat with an mostly easy playstyle. There are some assasins who are a bit harder to play like zerk, but when u see an orochi or a pk with theire lightspam.... it’s easy to do and quiet safe.
In 4v4 they are a lot weaker. Many vanguards and heavies shine in 4v4...
or have a look at lb... if u have 4v4 clash the lb will throw 2 bombs and it’s gg...

[SpaceJim12]

What’s your point? You chose 4 heroes out of 18. I’ve seen plenty of full assassin teams at my MMR come out on top. What if it’s a team of HL, Cent Shugo and Warlord? You can’t guarantee that the assassin team won’t win, so why are you acting that way?

HL and Shugo can crush full assassins team really fast in 4v4. HL is good counter pick for every assassin in the game, include Bers (which is OP for sure). With second skill for chain increase dmg and 180 gear score HL is ultimate kill machine. Same with Shugo.
And if you add Cent with bunch of control moves...

There are some assasins who are a bit harder to play like zerk, but when u see an orochi or a pk with theire lightspam.... it’s easy to do and quiet safe.

Zerk is harder to play? Really? Light spam maybe a problem on consoles. But on PC it's nothing special. LB in duel could crush lightspamers easily, just need patience.

[bananaflow2017]

@charmz
Just saying that zerk is harder to play than other assasins. U simply need a really good feintgame. With orochi u need r1 and a strong finger....

And yes I play on console. Not saying, that it’s unbeatable, just saying that it’s easy to perform and hard to counter.

[ChampionRuby50g]

My point is that people in this Thread claimed Assassins being OP, again, and that this is certainly not the case in 4v4 where static guard heroes, even those you mentioned, are superior to most Assassins. Full Assassin Teams mostly s*ck when it comes to Team Fights.

A Team of HL, Cent, Shugo and Warlord is superior to a Team of PK, Shinobi, Zerker and Shaman for example. The amount of unblockables, tankyness and Cutscenes is just better than 1-2 500ms Attacks more.

I cannot guarantee that the Assassins won't win, but on the same skill levels it is very likely that they lose.

I mentioned it because you picked the top 3 Dominion characters, and the best duelist (Conq, 60%)

When it comes to random dom matches, when players aren’t grouped up, the team composition is usually all over the place, and in my experience it’s rare to find all the top picks on the same team. Sure they are there often, but usually not all at once.

Assassins have a lot of tools to punish UBS, like HLs with dodge attacks. Shugo isn’t a great pick anywhere.

But, I just wanted to know your reasoning and you gave it.

[SpaceJim12]

Assassins have a lot of tools to punish UBS, like HLs with dodge attacks.

Maybe in duels. In Dominion nowadays you probably see 4v4 fights or 1v2/3/4 fights. No duels in dominion anymore. And in 4v4 situation HL hell of a mess. You can't dodge from multiple attacks, and at the same time Shugo and HL have huge AOE dmg. And you really care less about lightspam or anything like that. You have tons of hyperarmor.
Sure in any situation could be damn good assassin player and really bad HL player. But this a matter of skill now. And situation could be reverse as well.

[VougishMan]

I'd like to point out that without assassins there'd be no risk at all to players who like to turtle up and parry. I've mained berserker since season 2 and i can say with 100% confidence that without my ability to feint heavies into lights, dodge attacks, and fast mix up game a lot of vanguard or heavy players would only need to sit back and wait for the parry. "you can't parry lights that fast, it's impossible" respectfully, i call ********. i run into players who can parry my lights all the time. "Of course you're defending assassins, you're playing an S tier hero" to which i say, sure but i played him for 3 seasons before he got his rework and nobody really complained about him until he got the rework. adapt and over come my friends.

HOWEVER, i do agree with this post in the sense that the next heroes to come out should be primarily vanguards and heavies. Playing against whole teams of assassins isn't uncommon and gets pretty boring after a bit. There are days when i look forward to running into a shugo, a lawbringer, a warden even. Give me a fight that isn't 80% dodge attacks and 15% cheese spams like orochi's light attacks or PK's zone attacks.