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[DrinkinMyStella]

its silly that turtling wins duels

[CandleInTheDark]

its silly that turtling wins duels

So here is the thing with the example I gave, I wasn't turtling,yes, I got a block or two, but the centurion, knowing that revenge buildup is a thing, after doing the kick and hits to the head which cause revenge buildup themselves, decided he was going to get extra damage by staying close to me and not using the floor punish that would have backed him up and given me space to try and manage being out of stamina, he did that twice, gb, throw to floor, delayed heavy, gb, throw to floor, each of those giving me revenge buildup. If he had decided to do the floor pin and let me up I would not have had that revenge buildup and he may well still have beaten me. The thing is if you use crowd control moves in a 1v1 fight (and I deliberately don't use duel, there is a very specific place for 1v1s and people can go there if they don't like others not letting them have it elsewhere) then the measures to crowd control will also apply.

If he had treated it like a 1v1 fight rather than using stuff more suited for xvx I wouldn't have had my xvx boost and that mindset is very one sided, how dare you do xvx stuff to counter my xvx play.

[SenBotsu893]

most people that complain about revenge activation in 4v4 modes while facing a single enemy are the ones that heavily use bashes.

if you just use easy peasy bashy squeesy then dont cry if you trigger revenge faster than normal.

[bananaflow2017]

most people that complain about revenge activation in 4v4 modes while facing a single enemy are the ones that heavily use bashes.

if you just use easy peasy bashy squeesy then dont cry if you trigger revenge faster than normal.

The problem is the revenge build. Just played against a noobu with my valk and it really feels like I give her 4 or 5 hits or 2 combos, then her revenge gets up and gg...

[I_Am_OddGirl]

When they pop revenge go Full 100% turtle. Blocks, and Parry the unblockables. Do not swing or dodge. Dodging is good I know but you have more of a chance of getting Guardbroke after and you of course can't counter it if you just dodged. Just turtle. When it where's off then finish the fight.

[Legion25846]

I made a post on this a while ago Revenge ruins this game i understand why its there but its ****ing stupid

It should not exist in 1v1 or 2v2

[CandleInTheDark]

I made a post on this a while ago Revenge ruins this game i understand why its there but its ****ing stupid

It should not exist in 1v1 or 2v2

If people use crowd control 1v1 then revenge is also a thing in 1v1 as long as it is there.

I don't particularly like revenge, but when a centurion doesn't use his floor stab that would give me space to ride out being out of stamina just so he can get a heavy then gb and throw me to the floor again for another, if it is something available to me then yeah I am using it.

[We.the.North]

The problem is the revenge build.

This. When you use no bash and your opponent pops revenge in 1v1 simply because he blocked 2-3 hits, it's dumb.

[Legion25846]

If people use crowd control 1v1 then revenge is also a thing in 1v1 as long as it is there.

I don't particularly like revenge, but when a centurion doesn't use his floor stab that would give me space to ride out being out of stamina just so he can get a heavy then gb and throw me to the floor again for another, if it is something available to me then yeah I am using it.

I'm not blaming you for using it its at your disposal, i'm blaming Ubi for allowing it in 1v1 and 2v2.

[We.the.North]

most people that complain about revenge activation in 4v4 modes while facing a single enemy are the ones that heavily use bashes.

if you just use easy peasy bashy squeesy then dont cry if you trigger revenge faster than normal.

As said before, revenge is not the only problem, it's made worst by revenge gear. Lawbringer with their massive 150 hp proc revenge only by taking hits and blocking 2-3 hits. You can't 1v1 a lawbringer in revenge gear without procing his revenge.

Now, imagine if like me you play a Shinobi. Sometime, you'll want to gank and throw a ranged GB from the side. That single ranged GB being an "external attack" will feed so much revenge, often my opponent will get rewarded his revenge activation and I'll have to cancel my sickle rain and roll away. In other words, I outplay my opponent by throwing a GB in his recovery frames (thus, un-counterable), but I'm still the one getting punished for it.

Revenge. Should. Not. Exist. Period.

If you are worried about deathballs in Dominion :
a) Map bigger maps
b) Make boosting worth a damn
c) Make killing minions worth more points
d) Reduce greatly the amount of renown gained from kills
e) Improved the renown gain from "defending / capturing zones".

That way, running a deathball might get you more kills, but you'll lose the game because of points.