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[Vakris_One]

This thread is hilarious

[Knight_Raime]

But is it fun ?? No, especially given the amount of punish someone can do while his target gets knocked down. The fact it also negates half of heroes' kit (no Shinobi kick, no Shinobi frontroll kick, no valk sweep, etc.) is also ******ed.

Does it breaks your immersion ?? Yes, it makes no sense for your whole team to suddenly back away from someone about to go super sayien.

I't Dominion ffs. Crowd Control and teamwork should be the way to play. Adding CC immunity to revenge is like telling players you dont want them to coordinate and gank someone.

It. Is. Dumb. Revenge is dumb.

It's not fun to be cced either. But cc exists in hero based games to keep power in check. Just because something isn't fun doesn't mean it's automatically a problem.
saying it negates certain heros kits by a significant amount is not only hyperbolic but also not revenges problem. The three heros you mentioned have bad kits and should be made to be better. Not nerfing a mechanic that doesn't cause their kit to be garbage.

There are plenty of things in this game that "don't make sense." Such talk is not a point in discussion of balance. Which this is.
Adding CC immunity makes sense because of the amount of CC that exists in this game. If revenge didn't ignore CC then revenge would basically mean nothing.
And again hyperbolic. You can coordinate with your team without using CC. Good example is having an ally getting parried by the revenge person so shinobi can get a free ranged GB for sickle rain.

It's not. You're just throwing a fit.

[Arekonator]

If i could see enemy revenge bar under enemy stamina bar, it would be all i need for happines.

[TheTool85]

I really don't know if revenge, supported by gear stats, is meant as a solution or answer to the ganking we all face in 4vs4...
If so, i have to ask why the devs did not implement a 4th zone in dominion for example? I mean.. 4 players, against other 4, you know...
And why didn't they just connect the 4 feats in a 4vs4 directly to these zones?
Like : you want to unlock your catapult? Go and hold zone D for a couple of minutes!
IMO it would be also an anti gank thing, if points are ONLY achieved if the zone is occupied by someone of your team. Or, at least, you need to hold a zone for let's say 1 minute till minions arrive or something...

Revenge is a usefull tool, to hold a point till help arrives, but as soon as you can prepare your hero with gear stats as a revenge trigger, it is just as bad as light spam, unblockables spam and ganking itself.
Just my opinion

[Erhanninja]

The problem is yes we say revenge is a tool to hold out until help comes or means to get away. But it’s impossible to do either when I’m constantly staggered by CC attacks. I was just fighting against a shinobi, warlord and Shaman. I couldn’t even do anything against headbutt, kick and pounce. I couldn’t even move. It doesn’t matter even if I have 1000HP. I understand it’s very hard to find a solution to this if can.