Where did all this "highlander" nerf come from? | Forums

[RenegadeTX2000]

Out of no where too, I'm enjoying smash ultimate, catching up on data and preparing to travel for that game. I come back here and I see Nerf highlander here and there. What did this man do all of a sudden to garnish this? where was all this talk before hand? lol

[Kahuf1]

Simply came from players, who first of theirs lives see some good highlander and dont know how against hi.

Cause guess what... after buff he is playable or even i can tell good.
And its booring to cry against shamans feint jumps and zerks feints with HA.

[Charmzzz]

Out of no where too, I'm enjoying smash ultimate, catching up on data and preparing to travel for that game. I come back here and I see Nerf highlander here and there. What did this man do all of a sudden to garnish this? where was all this talk before hand? lol

Thing is that Highlander Kick / Caber Toss mixup is one of the hardest to dodge moves in the game. It is even better than Warden Shoulderbash was before it got nerfed. Basically Highlander is a better Version of Warden due to his Hyperarmor, heavy hitting Attacks, Crushing Counterstrikes on every direction and his offensive stance tools.

[Kahuf1]

Thing is that Highlander Kick / Caber Toss mixup is one of the hardest to dodge moves in the game. It is even better than Warden Shoulderbash was before it got nerfed. Basically Highlander is a better Version of Warden due to his Hyperarmor, heavy hitting Attacks, Crushing Counterstrikes on every direction and his offensive stance tools.

Highlander have hard to dodge move, agree, but hald of all heroes have dash attack to delete it. And rest of them have 3 posibilities to avoid or even punish. Late dodge, backward light and roll.

On opposite side have NO DEFENCE IN OFF STANCE, NO CGB, have rly slow lights which are easy to parry cause animation and pretty useless zone.

[Charmzzz]

On opposite side have NO DEFENCE IN OFF STANCE, NO CGB, have rly slow lights which are easy to parry cause animation and pretty useless zone.

Nope. Highlander has 400ms Dodge Recovery in Off-Stance which is THE BEST recovery in the game. #noDefence...
He does not need CGB because no one will EVER get close enough to GB him when he is in Off-Stance. If that happens the Highlander player did something wrong.

Slow Lights? Really? 500ms Top and 400ms Side Lights in Off-Stance with unblockable state, yeah, super easy to parry. lol...

Zone got buffed to kill more Minions recently. Not an argument imo. Highlander will be Top 5 in Duel in S6 imo.

[coldguy111]

I dare say that highlander exremely strong in that once he goes into offensive stance some characters simply can't get him out of it. Let's go through this scenario say law bringer sees a highlander go into offensive stance. Lawbringer tries to get close and either forced to deal with kick grab 50/50 or 400ms lights or unblockable feint into caber toss, Yeah not a fun match up. The inability to guard in offensive stance is completely offset by the 400ms dodge recovery. Which is itself is another form of great defense. Before the buff highlander could still do these things but was balanced by his lower damage higher stamina costs and the increased difficulty of trying to get into offensive form. Also he also has one of the strongest option selects in the game.
High damage output mixed with unparalleled mobility is reason people want a Nerf.

[DrinkinMyStella]

thank god I don't run into too many in the game, even when I think I dodged at the right time I still get caught by the grab.

[Siegfried-Z]

While i agree his kind of Guaranteed 50/50 is hard to deal with.. this is his strongest moove.

Overall i just think he is fine like he is and Ubi goal is to put all char arround this level or arround.

[DrinkinMyStella]

its more in 4v4 in gank and your getting hit out of view with unblockable after unblockable.

[Charmzzz]

its more in 4v4 in gank and your getting hit out of view with unblockable after unblockable.

This. Highlander shines in 4v4: Get grabbed? Screw you, you are on the floor and everyone gets a free heavy. You try to turtle up vs 2-3? No chance with a Highlander, spam unblockables all day @400ms so hit stagger will kill you 100%. Added to this he has very wide arc Attacks for AOE, at least they are blockable...