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    Will TTK be reduced or still spongy?

    Time to kill is one of the main importance when it comes to gun fights. The Division 1 was on the right track at first until they overdid it with updates. I don't mind the NPC's for PvE mainly the boss has high TTK. The players don't need it. Of course I don't want everyone to be at a base health but don't overdo health and healing. I rather see more skill thats not completly on build. I rather see guns and items such as seeker mines, drones, grenades use as a tactic. Have players use cover to protect the health they have. Lower TTK could make the game great again. Ijs
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    All they need to do is to make the boss elite max 2 purple (bodyguards) the rest of the mobs must be normal.

    That shot go for the rest off the game mods in the game Raids incursions LZ DZ
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    Exactly
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    TTK in TD1 is fine, even in Legendary/WT5. The whole point of having an RPG-like shooter is that you adapt your build to make enemies go down quicker. If you want even lower TTK, play at a lower diffculty level/world tier.
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    Extremely high TTK is fine if there's actual feedback that makes the fight more fun because the player can still feel that they are doing something, the destructible armour pieces are a huge step in the right direction.

    To the gentleman above, whittling nothing more but a health bar of a guy that doesn't care about getting shot is not fun in the slightest, enemies are ridiculously tanky in WT5 legendaries for the amount of feedback their provide.
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    Originally Posted by BOT_Coyote Go to original post
    Extremely high TTK is fine if there's actual feedback that makes the fight more fun because the player can still feel that they are doing something, the destructible armour pieces are a huge step in the right direction.

    To the gentleman above, whittling nothing more but a health bar of a guy that doesn't care about getting shot is not fun in the slightest, enemies are ridiculously tanky in WT5 legendaries for the amount of feedback their provide.
    This guy gets it! 👍
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    Originally Posted by NLxAROSA Go to original post
    TTK in TD1 is fine, even in Legendary/WT5. The whole point of having an RPG-like shooter is that you adapt your build to make enemies go down quicker. If you want even lower TTK, play at a lower diffculty level/world tier.
    Agreed, I loved the feeling when I see their health melts whenever I got a stronger gun. Please dont make it like cod or battlefield in TTK
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    Originally Posted by Natfrog Go to original post
    This is an RPG. We need spongy enemies.It is a core mechanic of the game.
    Where in Third-Person Action Role Playing Game is written "enemies absolutely have to be unresponsive, unamusing to fight absolute damage sponges"?

    Sure it's an RPG game, inflation of numbers is important, the problem is the numbers have grown excessively big and the enemies didn't get sufficiently more interesting to fight. It has always been a problem in The Division because we aren't shooting alien prismatic overshields with some puny outdated firearms, we are shooting other people, often with rudimentary armour or none at all.

    Originally Posted by Natfrog Go to original post
    Don't ruin my fun because you have a mental block in place about playing on a lower world tier.
    Wow you've gotten defensive.

    Originally Posted by Natfrog Go to original post
    Stay out of Legendary missions if you don't like the amount of health they have.
    If you'd pay attention, you could have realised the subtle difference between "a bullet sponge that just soaks damage" and "a bullet sponge that at least tries to respond to players' actions".

    I've found a great game for you, it's almost exclusively growing numbers, you'll love it!


    The Divsion has way too much potential and is a mix of too many ideas and genres to put all the eggs into number inflation basket.
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    Just to recall. I do not mind the PvE having high health mainly the bosses. In fact I well aware of how RPG works. First RPG I played was from the Tales of Series being two decades ago. I clearly understood that bosses and normal enemies health is sky rocket and can constantly heal. Even learned some damage apply to only weak spots on the enemy, certain elements can counter fire, wind, water,etc..as well as the difficulty settings. The Division by far wasn't my first RPG shooter. Defiance was and from that point open world mix with RPG shooters started to be a popular thing. So I knew I had to level up, watch particular stats I want to strengthen and balance stats I had to sacrifice for weakness.

    I'm just saying mainly to the PvP aspect. Again I don't want the game to be broken like the first. The Divison health was on track with the first few updates but lost track in the middle updates. Survival mode just like many others was my favorite mode because that was not only balance but more skillful. If the Devs actually make it close to that it would be good. One thing I would say just like any normal RPG. Have the Armor be the toughest but keep health to a base level. Kind of like that fortnite thing with the armor and health bar. Don't allow armor to regenerate right away but only allow health regenerate after a few seconds. Of course the medkits can be there.
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    Originally Posted by Natfrog Go to original post
    This is an RPG. We need spongy enemies.It is a core mechanic of the game. If you do not like it drop your world tier. Don't ruin my fun because you have a mental block in place about playing on a lower world tier. Stay out of Legendary missions if you don't like the amount of health they have.
    If they pot spongy enemies again people will live again like in TD we don t need spongy enemies like i said before all the enemies have to be normal max 2-4 purple and 1 elite (Boss)
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