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ok ubisoft! i dont want any more of assassins creed! congrats you hav NOW offically killed it odyssey!
YOU STEAL IDEAS from witcher GAMEPLAY = get lvelling system, and ****!
WHERE IS THE ASSASSINATIONS and CREED??? wat happened to ezio-type games? IDIOTS
congrats on destroying the original fan club! yeah! get new fans coz u already have them! RPG-f**ing loving idiots! we chose the role already when we buy assassins creed.. coz it says "ASSASSINS" get it??? IDIOTS
PLEASE if YOU wanna redeem urself get back to THE original Assassins creed LIKE brotherhood, II or anything before origins
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While this game looks cool, does it really have anything to do with Assassin's Creed? Your character is a mercenary, not an assassin. The Assassins organization seems to have no presence, not even a stray insignia. They've replaced stealth and assassinations with pure combat. You don't have an Assassin's uniform or even appear to have a Hidden Blade.
It looks like a cool game, but not an AC game. You clearly want to have an RPG in ancient Greece, which is fine. Just make it stand alone game, or make a new franchise with a new name and move on, and stop riding the AC name for unrelated concepts. Don't throw a few Assassins related things in later to justify calling it Assassin's Creed when that's not the focus of the game, and not what it's about. It's one thing to take a franchise in new direction and another to ditch the original concept completely but keep the old, now-irrelevant, name.
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Yeah the ship is the one I heard of but it still would be super awesome if we could be able to build a base somewhere.Originally Posted by MnemonicSyntax Go to original post
For example we free a specific island and can make it our home base too and renovate it. Time by time we then can maybe be invaded by enemies and fight at the beach. How cool would that be.
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As a game: it looks gorgeous with a good open-world and a really fantastic Greece
As an Assassin's Creed: Well....it is not an Assassin's Creed but Ubisoft wanted it to be in the franchise and have the title. I don't know why and who came up with this idea I just wanna tell him you just ruined one of the greatest franchises in history.
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Yes, by all means. Judge it before you've played it.Originally Posted by mehdy-25 Go to original post
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I didnīt misunderstand anything here, If anything you Misunderstand me. All i did here was to correct you on how and where the AC series declined, and it's at the moment, where Patrice made AC Brotherhood and later got fired. Oh and quality does define a AC game, a AC has to have a certian amount of Qualities and overall richness of the plot in order to be considered amazing or even good and guess what, i was reffering to the Plotīs quality, not the gameplay like you seem to believe. The Games before Liberation were still quite decent enough in order to be considered AC games in terms of story, but they lost thier true touch, when Rougue came about. I agree that the stories we now have arenīt super amazing, i was correcting you on your point about the plot, and you just failed to get what i meant. No where did i talked about gameplay, where did you get that?Missing the point. You're confusing 'quality' with what consitutes an AC game. Qualiity wise, the series has been on the decline since Revelations, yes, but whether the games are good or not is not what my post was about. I was referring purely to the lore and premise of the Assassins / Templar conflict which was still very present in Revelations despite the game, itself, being quite poor.
The Introduction of the sages was an interesting plot point, It allowed for more character development for Aita and led to the creation of one of the best AC villains, Bartholomew Rogeers, who fooled edward and got some interesting dialougue, so no he wasnīt pointless, but like Egpyt underused. The sages could have been interesting if they put effort in it, but the problem is that they didnīt thatīs why Germian sucked, unlike Rogers.The introduction of the Sage was pointless. It made the plot more convoluted and was yet another way of tricking hardcore fans into thinking the story line was advancing when really it was Darby making up random nonsense as he went along. Additionally, you are not addressing my point regarding Edward. Edward killing Assassins because of ignorance is about a fictional character making a fictional decision in a fictional story. I don't care about that. What I was referring to was the decision making of the writers. Black Flag should not have contained the Assassin's Creed title or, at least, it shouldn't have been marketed as one. If they had been more candid and said "look guys, you're not playing as either side, you're a pirate with his own agenda caught in the middle" and called the game 'A Pirate's Creed' the I would have accepted it. Writers can tell whatever story they like. Just don't lie about it to your consumers. That's where Black Flag contrasts to Odyssey because even from the way the narrative director speaks about it she is not selling it as an AC game but a Ancient Greek game with some references to the First Civilisation. They're not going on about it being the origins of the Assassin every 5 minutes and paying lip service. It is what it is.
To Black flag: No it was a Assassins game, it was the story of how an dirty Pirate became a proud member of the Assassins Brotherhood after learning that his way wasnīt the best and so, he wanted to join a cause not this time out of Selfishness like his Pirate Career that cost him nearly everything. Itīs a lot like Altairīs change of heart after realizing that he had been in the wrong for a long time and turned into the best Assassin the world had ever seen. Itīs to tell a story how an average Pirate, became a Assassin and a ok one, after all he gave us the idea that maybe the Creed isnīt the end, but the Beginning of Wisdom, so no, itīs diespite your flawed Claims that itīs no true Scotsman.
See, i adressed you comment, that's why i corrected you, you made a mistake here yet again.
Actually it is the Origin story of the Assassins as we now it from the first game( The fingercut ritual,The feathers, Leap of faith e.t.c) not the first Assassins per se, that would be Adam and Eve. itīs like with Pizza, Pizza was initially flat breat with toppings on it, until a Italian man made the famous Pizza Margahrita, creating the "first Pizza".No, it was the Origin story of Bayek and that's not what was sold to fans during marketing. Ashraf pulled this same stunt during Black Flag's campaign. He doesn't seem to actually like the Assassin lore and instead opts to make historical epics and then tack on the Assassin element at the end so he can say, "See! It is an AC game because the protagonist does eventually become an Assassin!" The way the formation of the Creed happened came out of nowhere and was forced. Ubisoft are obsessed with getting new players on board which is why they refuse to move the story forward. Origins was yet another way of retelling the story from scratch, just like Black Flag.
Thatīs the same principle with Orgins, he wasnīt the first Assassin in the long line of Assasssins, just the one that formed the ideas we know from AC 1, but of course the end product wasnīt satisfying at all, like whatīs the point in cutting the finger of a person, if you can just built the same Hidden blade Bayek uses, right? It was as you descriped it, a Ultimate failrue to tell a good Origin story, becasue the Devs didnīt knew, how to make a Character interesting without being relevant to the plot. Normally, the Character a viewer has to be inwested too is the one, who is the most important and the most revelant to the whole thing, itīs there to make the Main Protagonist stand out from the crowd like Altair and Ezio, who are remembered as the Greatest Protagonists of Assassins Creed, because of thier vital part of the plot. No one is going to care about a main hero that didnīt do anything important to the plot like Arno and/or wasnīt important enough like the Frye twins. People only care about a Character that is important, the last Assassins before Bayek( not counting AC1-4) pretty much lacked any important feats or achievements to make them likable. Thatīs how Bayek ended up being a fan favorite, everyone asked for a sequel with him, but all of it was thrawed because his story had one key problem: It was set in a period, where Greece was no longer interesting and got Bayek was probably made Founder of the Assassins, but they executed it the wrong way by discrediting Eve and other Characters. However that alone isnīt enough to make a Character Good and you can mess ip still, if you arenīt clear enough like origins.
Also Ashraf didnīt write the story, it was Alain Mercieca, blame him.
The admitted it even, look at the interview https://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/BobW..._Tour_Mode.phpI agree here. It's clear the devs wanted to make a game about Greece or Rome instead. Also, the time period they chose technically isn't 'Ancient' Egypt anyway.
sigh..Man, IF a Trailer or adversiting of any kind makes a Character look less important or doesn't show enough of her/him,exspecially a Main Character, then itīs a juristical testament that they this Character wasnīt the one they are the most found off or rather the one they had in Mind. She didnīt even talked in the trailer or made any long appearences, and she is our potential main Heroine! That alone proves my point that they didnīt cared so much for her. We have seen more stuff from Alexios alone, in both leaks, Trailers, pictures and even Gameplay footage that DIDN`T EVEN ADVERTISED KASSANDRA ALONE, and most of them showed us Alexious in the beginning anyway and it the case you didnīt noticed, THEY ARE BOTH SELECTABLE CHARACTERS, OF COURSE WE WILL GET TO PLAY BOTH We have the option to choose between both Characters. What a single Youtuber thinks alone isnīt important( there is Polygon after all).You're confusing the developers with the marketing directors and they are not the same. I can guarantee that Ubisoft's marketing department would have pushed for the male character in the trailers in order to appease a certain demographic minority that hates women in anything significant... The devs are not the marketing team. Also, you conveniently leave out that the walkthrough they showed on stage in front of the entire world, as in the gameplay, itself,was all Kassandra...
From people who have played the game at E3, they all agree that Kassandra's animations and face model seem to have got more care than her brother's.
Once again, I undestand the things you said perfectly, I just corrected you on things you didnīt knew off and decided to make it look like as if i wasnīt who get it, when you didnīt get what i was trying to say, like the way that you accused me of talking of the Quality of a game, instead of the plot. If you want to respond to me, donīt make assumptions about me.
