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    Originally Posted by Kiroku Go to original post
    If thats true then there are questions for me:

    Both characters we can play are spartans right?

    And they help sparta to get more influence in several territories right?

    Doesnt that make them to templars at the end of the game according to the theories?

    If yes it doesnt make sense to mee since it looks like they fight for freedom in the gameplay footage.
    It's definitely just a theory, but who knows?

    Kinda looked like Shay was fighting for freedom too, didn't it?
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    Originally Posted by cawatrooper9 Go to original post
    It's definitely just a theory, but who knows?

    Kinda looked like Shay was fighting for freedom too, didn't it?
    Well thats fair enough ha!

    Maybe the hatred will grow throughout the game until the feeling for revenge overcomes.
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    It's good that they choose the Peleponnesian war, after all it's by far the most interesting era in Greek History. A refreshing sight to see them choose a setting that didn't get more coverage from the Media. It's better than what they did with Revenge 5( AC Origins). Revenge 5 was just arrogant in the notion that only Cleopatra´s story matters to Egyptian history cough Bronze age Egpyt cough .

    Hopefully Alexious´s story won't be like Revenge 5 and be actual interesting.
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    I'm very disappointed - I was with AC from first game and its propably ends now dialogue options, few different endings, character select option - its typical RPG games - I hate RPG games. Shame couse Origins was great and rpg parts were really good - but it was only parts not whole rpg game. I will miss you AC. I always love to learn new AC stories but I don't want to create it.I'm so disappointed
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    Originally Posted by suchymisiaczek Go to original post
    I'm very disappointed - I was with AC from first game and its propably ends now dialogue options, few different endings, character select option - its typical RPG games - I hate RPG games. Shame couse Origins was great and rpg parts were really good - but it was only parts not whole rpg game. I will miss you AC. I always love to learn new AC stories but I don't want to create it.I'm so disappointed
    The male/female selection is at least explained by having two sets of DNA apparently.
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  6. #96
    So far what I see in ACOD is very promissing but still I see some problem in the gameplay that I want to point it out:
    1) push back distance: seem like in hands on edition the pushback distance is a bit too much ( shield break and kick) although the kick is acceptable for me, on the other hand the shield break look abit too much and it actually break the motion of the fight when your enemy fly 5 m away after u shield break them. Its very annoying and less cinematic.
    2) as we all know and complain about in ACO lack of kill animation. ACOD does the same thing and even less when there is no sickle sword anymore probaly also barehand fighting.
    3) they may remove the pop up of the skill interface when fighting. When people only trying to parry they unconciously hold to button too long and the skill set keep poping up and it really really annoying.
    4) See no tomb or some short of replacement for tomb to explore. Maybe because they haven shown it in the demo yet.
    5)bugs some time your character suddently flying around and glitchy. Well ots pre alpha demo
    6)too much long dodging. Idont know if it had different key set now for long dodge and short dodge but I see people use long dodge all the time. If the longdodge is the only method then the combat system is completely f*** up because now they even remove the blocking system and force people too move.
    I may wrong on the first point because maybe the far push back is a skill. But if it's then it need to be fixed
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  7. #97
    Just to address all the foot stomping and tantrum throwing: sometimes I think Ubisoft goes through these comments and just laughs at how short people's memories are.
    Wow, that's very harsh, i would agree with you, but the next paragraph makes more reculant to do so:

    You guys whined and complained about Origins during the first look, "ooooh, the combat sucks oooh, the animations are janky" and then when it came out you loved it and bought all the DLCs. Don't tell me that Odyssey marks the first true departure from the lore, that ship sailed (pun intended) around Black Flag when they started introducing random crap like the Sage and had you playing as an iPad. That is, when you were playing as a pirate that actively MURDERED ASSASSINS. That should have been your first clue.
    Actually AnimusLover it was long before that, it was during the time Brotherhood was finished, when Patrice was fired because he rightfully didn´t agree with Annulization, though i would argue that AC 2 did put the first nail of the Coffin. That´s why he was fired and the overall structure of the games were after Black flag much worse. the Sage thing was actually in Concept very good, having a Human with First Civ Knowledge was a pretty terrifying, yet engaging threat, exspecially how hositle he was. Murdering Assassis in the beginning isn't the biggest issue, because he didn´t knew he was in a middle between an ongoing Prehistoric war, what was his issue was his lack of respect for the Assassins and his overall naiveness that would make his descendants look Guile in Comparison

    In Origins, we didn't play as an Assassin until after the campaign had finished and it was very tacked on. You were a medjay - not an Assassin - in Egypt and the game, itself, even referred to you as such throughout (e.g. medjays did not kill civilians'). The only difference between Odyssey and Origins is that the devs here are far more honest about this not really being an Assassin's Creed game. They're also being more open in general, admitting that they were worried people would think they were rushing it after Origins only came out a few months ago (according to RadBrad) and they're talking more candidly about modern day (if only to offset the fact that there's a choice mechanic). I like the fact that they're not using the "this is alpha footage!" disclaimer/excuse anymore. Good on you Ubisoft for owning your presentations.
    Well Because it was supposed to be the Origin story of the Assassins like we know from the first game, not the overall creation of the Assassins, of course we wouldn't play a Assassin until he becomes one after realizing that all tyrants suck and that he will kill every single one of them...yeah i agree it was pretty garbage and i regret playing it. Yeah and that is good? Attacking the own fanbase like that? They as devs shouldn't fall down to the level of the same people, who are still angry that Ezio gets no game anymore. They shouldn´t even try to be so sensive of Criticism of these people, becasue if you give into too much criticism is also bad, because you won't be able to see BS Criticism like you know. They should hire professional writers with an clear understanding of the Matter, not hiring newbies with no knowledge on the stuff, this way they can imake good games like AC 1 and 3 again. All they got is the scorn of the fanbase yet again.

    So in conclusion, if you're here complaining that "Odyssey isn't a true AC game" but had no problem with Origins then Ash and his team did a great job of manipulating you during the marketing campaign and you deserve everything you get. I gave up on the series being an Assassin's Creed game after the terrible story in Origins and have stopped being angry at this franchise for not being something it clearly has no intention of being anymore and have just learned to embrace it for what is where the story is concerned.
    Well i was actually very indifferent with Origins, while i enjoy it to some degree, it´s plot was pretty limiting in terms of Potential. Yeah, the fans deserve what they always wanted: A History simulator with no AC lore in it, like the earlist of AC Critics always imagined it. That´s why i think Ancestors is going to destroy AC.

    Now, my thoughts on what was shown at E3. I love it. Can't stop watching gameplay videos. I'm actually more into Ancient Greece than Egypt (Origins wasn't really Ancient Egypt anyway) because the mythology is more interesting to me. The art direction is stunning and the graphics are more photo realistic than Origins which looked too cartoonish at times and uneven in environmental detail. Odyssey is the best looking AC game to date by far. Here, everything has been improved including the facial models which has been this series' greatest weakness. It's a milestone for Ubisoft. Now, the graphical quality that has always been present in every AC world can now be seen in all its beautiful glory in the actual facial models of its characters. They have finally achieved the graphical pinnacle of Unity without compromising the game's performance, so it seems. Even Layla looks be improved from the little snippet I saw of her (yes Ubisoft, I caught that tehe). Hopefully, they won't downgrade it in subsequent patches...
    Personally i find it boring. The trailer wasn´t imposing nor Epic, just filled with a soulless track and a terrible presentation of it. The art might be stunning but it looks way to similiar to AC Origins in order to be called unique as well as the facial animations that aren´t even stunning. Origins wasn´t Ancient Egypt because the devs were more interested in Rome than Egypt, which you can add as another reason to dislike Origins, however i absolutely disagree that Greek mythology is better, it´s pretty unsophisticated compared to those of the Oriental or Northern Mythologies like the Mesopotamian( the actual inspiration for the first Civ) and Norse Gods( who are actually flawed compared to the Greek gods). The Greek Gods are like Yahweh, but less impressive, they are no subject to Human ideas and pretty boring sometimes like Zeus, who only bangs Woman and insult Hera. No Greek considered them Flawed or questionable, only few did like Socrates, who died because he questioned them. Not to mention that Greek mythology is actually neo_Hittite Polytheism and not really unique.

    According to RadBrad, the devs said they are most proud of Kassandra. Unlike Syndicate, it feels like this game was designed with her in mind rather than as a last minute tack on. In Syndicate you could tell that more work had gone into Jacob's model than Evie's. Kassandra looks well realised. I'm definitely playing as her on my first playthrough.
    They are so proud that they didn´t even marketed her properly in the trainer and plays secound fiddle to the Male protagonists, so no they aren't so proud as you make it out to be. If they were, then we would have seen more of her already, i mean recycling the choice of playing a female or male hero, why not just make one female Assassin instead like a Korinthian spy, they were the most beautiful woman in Greece according to their writings after all.

    Music during dialogue scenes totally sounds like the Witcher 3...
    Like Alexious appereance, he looks like Mediterreanian Geralt.

    Overall it's a discount AC Origins that took more influence from the Witcher than from AC, quite dissapointed but meh.
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  8. #98

    Assassin’s Creed ?

    I don’t know why Ubisfot still call this AC lol come on guys the last AC game was Syndicate.

    let’s be honest, Origins yes is a fun game immersive world and beautiful graphics, but that’s not AC.

    AC was about assassination, creed and stealth, planing before you kill the target create distractions and hide within crowds and pass throughout guards like nothing happened, you took all these stuff away and you still trying to convince me that Odyssey will be good ? i mean the title “Assassin’s Creed” has nothing to do with Odyssey.

    the game is 100% RPG now, leveling up and fighting foes like a Dark Souls game?? someone please explain to me where is the Assassin Creed part in Odyssey and i’ll pre-order it right now.

    don’t get me wrong I’m cool with change and improvements on the mechanics and gameplay, but changing the core concept of the game and still publish it as one of the series that’s ********, That’s litteraly fraud.
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  9. #99
    You guys need to check out Ghost of Tsushima. At E3 it made AC look like child's play. It's the authentic Assassin's Creed that never was!
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