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  1. #21
    my guy, the reason orochi dont got an opener is because he is a counter attacker, not an attacker.. thats why kensei and them have a bash... secondly, i def prefer the new orochi... the old orochi was pure ****, but the new one i would give a solid tier B... old orochi was a D
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  2. #22
    Id like to see his SR have hyper armor so it forces the person to react to it then just time the light attack.
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  3. #23
    Light spam is bae.

    see ubi ...that's the kind of people you must NOT listen to !!!!
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  4. #24
    Bump, orochi main here!

    He needs one or two extra unblockable move as an opener ASAP!
    Experienced players basically block any attempt at the "omg so quick light spam attacks" and feinting doesnt help with them either, they just KNOW that an Orochi can only do so much,either feint-baiting them or try to somehow chip their health away with lights.The character is too predictable at the moment.
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  5. #25
    I preffer the new orochi but I agree that he needs an opener.
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  6. #26
    Originally Posted by Knight_Raime Go to original post
    Hard pass. I prefer the new rochi.
    Only thing I miss from his old kit is the ability to delay his storm rush input.
    Which can easily be added back at some point.
    I do miss Riptide being able to execute, but it's easy to get over. I agree with you. The Orochi is amazing now and NOT because of any light spam. He's the single best counter-attacker in the game, with an answer to just about every situation.

    If you're being parried when you use Riptide then you are literally using it wrong. It should never be used to directly attack.
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  7. #27
    Originally Posted by HazelrahFirefly Go to original post
    I do miss Riptide being able to execute, but it's easy to get over. I agree with you. The Orochi is amazing now and NOT because of any light spam. He's the single best counter-attacker in the game, with an answer to just about every situation.

    If you're being parried when you use Riptide then you are literally using it wrong. It should never be used to directly attack.
    Without bumping an old thread too much I still feel like the current kit could use a smidge touch up.
    That being bringing the old target swap bad on SR and being able to delay it's input. Though considering shinobi's double dodge doesn't work right with back dodge first anymore I'd say it wasn't a deliberate change but more so an effect of back dodges being normalized.
    Not saying these really need to happen. I still firmly believe rochi is good as is. but it would be false to state that the reworks can't receive a final tweak or 2 in order to feel better.
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  8. #28

    The devs have made orochi op

    Orochis are the new aramushas. They’re no longer counter attackers. Verse any orochi after season 6 and all you’ll get is light spam. Imo for honor is complete **** now after I think it was season 4 or 5 when parries were made almost completely useless for some characters (like my main) when gb’s could be broken even after a parry. You can’t put in any work after a parry anymore.

    If you’re getting parried as an orochi you’re honestly just bad. Of all the times I’ve faced one and all the times I’ve spectated people facing them (even conqs, who I think have the best chance against them), I have never seen one get parried even once. Orochis don’t even have to faint anymore because they can just light spam. I don’t even wanna play with my orochi, not because they’re garbage now, but because of how stupidly op the devs made them. This could just be because people aren’t used to their rework yet, but when you can light spam after a heavy over and over, do tons of damage, and still have stamina after that, it’s automatically S tier. Now everyone and their mother are playing as them and when you see them you can expect to be light spammed into oblivion.
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