🛈 Announcement
Greetings! The For Honor forums are now archived and accessible in read-only mode, please go to the new platform to discuss the game
  1. #31
    The_B0G_'s Avatar Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2016
    Posts
    3,449
    Originally Posted by ReignQ2O Go to original post
    I know what I use it for. If they have the advantage. Or if they turtle, I have played this game since March of 2017. I use it to OOS punish. I mix a Top heavy with a light, GB , Throw. Heavy. GG... Lights are great but I've used this as an invaluable tool for Months without fast lights. Timing is everything. Yet you're all wanting it nerfed... Really?

    Cont...

    1. It does not work every time. You can be hit stunned out of it. You need distance to use it.

    2. Just because something is effective does not mean its OP. I personally think self-healing outside of zones, is OP. Yet Orochi cant do it. Every now and again. He can take your breath away. Some of you hate losing your advantage so you seek to minimize his.

    *I use it in solo and 2v1s if they corner me. Defensively. To advance poistion. I dont roll with other Orochi, they typical join my battles just to keep their count high. I'd rather capture points and find you 1v1 and take you out. If what you suggest were added I'd have to choose between it and revenge attacks, with nothing added to 1 tier. No thanks.
    1. He needs barely any room/time to use it, so this isn't true.

    2. Healing out of zones is a level 3 perk. Body count basically just allows you to kill minions and not lose health when doing it, no one kills minions to get their health back, it takes too long and will probably get you killed. Also "every now and again" is nearly every single fight.
    Share this post

  2. #32
    Originally Posted by The_B0G_ Go to original post
    Anyone else agree?
    I agree to the point that feats have to be checked in general.

    Originally Posted by Ubi-Boat Go to original post
    Hey The_B0G_!

    Thank you for reaching out and sharing your feedback here. I have recently seen a thread mentioning this same feedback, so, I will be sure to get these threads into my report to send to the team.
    It's more about re-evaluating ALL feats. Kiai is just a very very small example, compared to others.
    Report that (and this) to the team. :annoyed-as-hell:
    Share this post

  3. #33
    Originally Posted by The_B0G_ Go to original post
    1. He needs barely any room/time to use it, so this isn't true.

    2. Healing out of zones is a level 3 perk. Body count basically just allows you to kill minions and not lose health when doing it, no one kills minions to get their health back, it takes too long and will probably get you killed. Also "every now and again" is nearly every single fight.
    I have been hit out of the Kiai enough to lnow you need the opponent to be in neutral or use it before the strike to pull off.

    You cannot use it nearly as often as you make it sound. Especially factoring in in deaths and respawn time with the cool down. More importantly, its one of the 2 useful 1st tier feats for Orochi. Who actually uses the Iron Lungs???

    As I stated before, no one has offered anything in way of calling for a nerf or to make it harder to use as often. If no one can suggest a level 1 feat to replace it, it should be left alone.
    Share this post

  4. #34
    Originally Posted by ReignQ2O Go to original post
    I have been hit out of the Kiai enough to lnow you need the opponent to be in neutral or use it before the strike to pull off.

    You cannot use it nearly as often as you make it sound. Especially factoring in in deaths and respawn time with the cool down. More importantly, its one of the 2 useful 1st tier feats for Orochi. Who actually uses the Iron Lungs???

    As I stated before, no one has offered anything in way of calling for a nerf or to make it harder to use as often. If no one can suggest a level 1 feat to replace it, it should be left alone.
    I can’t think of another tier 1 feat as powerful as this now?
    Orochi can instantly have you oos and under huge pressure from him or a team mate in every single fight since the timer is so fast.
    Alternatives like ‘iron lungs’ is a moot point - nobody uses this on ANY hero.
    It’s by no means the best feat in the game but for a tier 1, it’s probably a bit much.
    Share this post

  5. #35
    The_B0G_'s Avatar Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2016
    Posts
    3,449
    Originally Posted by ReignQ2O Go to original post
    I have been hit out of the Kiai enough to lnow you need the opponent to be in neutral or use it before the strike to pull off.

    You cannot use it nearly as often as you make it sound. Especially factoring in in deaths and respawn time with the cool down. More importantly, its one of the 2 useful 1st tier feats for Orochi. Who actually uses the Iron Lungs???

    As I stated before, no one has offered anything in way of calling for a nerf or to make it harder to use as often. If no one can suggest a level 1 feat to replace it, it should be left alone.
    Well you can't slip it in in the middle of a light attack chain but pretty much anything else you can get one off. Dodge one attack, boom, opponent uses heavy, boom, parry or deflect, boom. Pretty easy to get them off man, don't try to make that case.

    Most heroes don't even have a useful first perk at all. Not Kai useful, thats for certain.

    There has been multiple suggestions to fix it, you just didn't read any of them.
    Share this post

  6. #36
    Alustar.exe's Avatar Banned
    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Posts
    2,374
    Originally Posted by ReignQ2O Go to original post
    I have been hit out of the Kiai enough to lnow you need the opponent to be in neutral or use it before the strike to pull off.

    You cannot use it nearly as often as you make it sound. Especially factoring in in deaths and respawn time with the cool down. More importantly, its one of the 2 useful 1st tier feats for Orochi. Who actually uses the Iron Lungs???

    As I stated before, no one has offered anything in way of calling for a nerf or to make it harder to use as often. If no one can suggest a level 1 feat to replace it, it should be left alone.
    I've been about to hit an orochi with a light attack and not even been the one he was focusing, coming from behind him and still been hit by it. Not to mention this particular orochi was able to use it roughly every 30s. I know this because after every respawn in a tribute he was able to use it. Could that with the fact that all this particular player was doing was repeated 3 light chain and yeah, that is just ridiculous. That feat needs to get toned down.
    If not I will personally pick up orochi and abuse this like every other player running this class till it gets nerfed. It's bad enough his light chain is more annoying than peacekeepers ever was.
    Share this post

  7. #37
    Specialkha's Avatar Banned
    Join Date
    Apr 2016
    Posts
    735
    Originally Posted by ReignQ2O Go to original post
    I have been hit out of the Kiai enough to lnow you need the opponent to be in neutral or use it before the strike to pull off.

    You cannot use it nearly as often as you make it sound. Especially factoring in in deaths and respawn time with the cool down. More importantly, its one of the 2 useful 1st tier feats for Orochi. Who actually uses the Iron Lungs???

    As I stated before, no one has offered anything in way of calling for a nerf or to make it harder to use as often. If no one can suggest a level 1 feat to replace it, it should be left alone.
    You are totally biaised.

    Kiai is the most powerful T1 feat hands down. It shoud be nerf or moved up to t2 or t3.

    Ofc, Feats overall should be redesigned, but it won't happen.
    Share this post

  8. #38
    Originally Posted by KitingFatKidsEZ Go to original post
    Eyyyy Ubisoft, Knight player here

    i heard the samurai have one good feat on one character, plx delete kkthxbai!

    Seriously tho, Kai is good but its NOWHERE NEAR the power level of fiat lux EVEN IF you consider Kai is tier 1 and Fiat Lux is tier 2, so how about we DELETE THAT ****! (seriously its not even in the same ****ing universe, fiat lux is literally INSANE!)
    I tried to sound like a meme. Does that make it more likely it will actually happen?

    And jesus **** traps are GARBAGE compared to bombs. Anyone with a tiny amount of intelligence can avoid that ****.
    Oh shut up weeb. Samurai have plenty of good feats. Every faction has its bs including your weebs
    Share this post

  9. #39
    Originally Posted by BadBOO17 Go to original post
    Oh shut up weeb. Samurai have plenty of good feats. Every faction has its bs including your weebs
    They have good feats, until they run into 4 knights fully feated toward bombs/cata then their feats cant even hope to compare.
    Share this post

  10. #40
    Originally Posted by BadBOO17 Go to original post
    Oh shut up weeb. Samurai have plenty of good feats. Every faction has its bs including your weebs
    I think you are the first person to say Samurai has good feats. Arrow storm is as useless as t gets everybody can avoid it even if got hit. On the other hand even if my toes in that catapult range I die for sure.

    Anyway. This **** has to get nerfed. Its absolutely ridiculous. Its game changer. Its instant and interrupts everybody in the range. I fight an orochi and about to win he pops Kai I’m dead. I respawn and he uses Kai again straight away. We have numbers he uses Kai we are at disadvantage whole team. This Is bloody tier one feat. No stamina everything turns white can’t see **** against light attack spam and this is every 30 seconds. Nice job!
    Share this post

Page 4 of 4 ◄◄  First ... 234