To Anyone Saying Kensei has i-Frames During Swift Strike | Forums

[Vakris_One]

I present to you these two videos:

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After watching both clips please try to tell me again how Kensei gets magical invulnerability frames during his swift strike dodge attack.

[Arekonator]

No, you will get video of people missplaying on orochi and then unrelated issue on shinobi, accompanied by cries for kensei nerf.

[RenegadeTX2000]

any character ever dodging that late will be hit out of anything they attempt to do. The dodge you committed to was activated waaay too late. and both videos only show you try and dodge last minute in the opposite direction of the move being thrown.

Anybody would be hit in that scenario.

That is literally the only time I can hit Kensei with my unblockable as Highlander. They dodge as late as you did, never mind the terrible direction you decided to dodge in...


0/10. Bad decision making all around. I recommend more training. =-0

[KotoKuraken]

You were still starting up that dodge attack. You got hit in the startup, which is when the attack wasn't even in place. If you notice in your slow-mo there, your sword hadn't even descended into attack yet.

He still has a dodge attack that dodges out of basically every attack when it starts up and has a very wide window to dodge incoming attacks

[Siegfried-Z]

any character ever dodging that late will be hit out of anything they attempt to do. The dodge you committed to was activated waaay too late. and both videos only show you try and dodge last minute in the opposite direction of the move being thrown.

Anybody would be hit in that scenario.

That is literally the only time I can hit Kensei with my unblockable as Highlander. They dodge as late as you did, never mind the terrible direction you decided to dodge in...


0/10. Bad decision making all around. I recommend more training. =-0

First, you're wrong, in the first video he dodge on the same side than the attack.

And, every messages you write you're so arrogant in.. try to speak noramlly with people maybe ?

[PepsiBeastin]

I can't even tell if this a troll post or not, the attacks obviously haven't their i-frames yet... That's like saying Shinobi's kick doesn't have hyperarmor just because you can be hit out of a kick for the first 20% of it.

[RenegadeTX2000]

First, you're wrong, in the first video he dodge on the same side than the attack.

And, every messages you write you're so arrogant in.. try to speak noramlly with people maybe ?

Mad? he dodged on same side then attacked... My bad didn't fully explain that scenario, I just blew this whole post off when I saw him utilizing the move wrong...

You aren't supposed to ever use kensei's dodge attack immediately. You always delay it and react to what the opponent gives you...

If he delayed the attack on the first video the scenario wouldn't have ever gone down like that for he would have blocked...

When someone rushes to put videos out to show why a certain move is fine and failing at that, my response is usually in the same quality.

[KitingFatKidsEZ]

The startup on Kenseis dodge attack IS slower than others though. Try dodge attacking out of warden shoulder vortex if he releases immediately (2nd shoulder in chain after side DL). You will still get hit while the assassins cover both shoulder and grab with dodge attack.

On other note:
It clearly shows that it doesnt have unlimited iframes all the time unbeatable herpderp which was the whole point. The raider one in particular is just a super late hit.

[Vakris_One]

any character ever dodging that late will be hit out of anything they attempt to do. The dodge you committed to was activated waaay too late. and both videos only show you try and dodge last minute in the opposite direction of the move being thrown.

Anybody would be hit in that scenario.

That is literally the only time I can hit Kensei with my unblockable as Highlander. They dodge as late as you did, never mind the terrible direction you decided to dodge in...


0/10. Bad decision making all around. I recommend more training. =-0

Nope. On the Raider I did do the dodge attack too late and was expecting to get caught but with the Conq I did it well in time and still got caught, that one actually surprised me.

But certain people on this forum frequently cry that Kensei is invulnerable during his dodge strike and that swift strike is a guarranteed hit. That's who I am disputing. As for your comment about bad decision making; take a look at the Conq clip again. That dodge attack should have gotten him. I dodged sooner than he attacked yet he still got me. Trust me mate, I have 32 reps on Kensei. The Raider one was my mistake and I deserved to get hit but the Conq one... nah bro. That's the first time I've gotten caught right on the cusp of actually hittng the opponent with my blade. It makes for great footage to shut the crybabies down about Kensei i-frames though.

You were still starting up that dodge attack. You got hit in the startup, which is when the attack wasn't even in place. If you notice in your slow-mo there, your sword hadn't even descended into attack yet.

He still has a dodge attack that dodges out of basically every attack when it starts up and has a very wide window to dodge incoming attacks

Nope. Look at the Conq footage. I was just about to hit him. That's not during the startup, that's during the middle of swift strike. Look at the footage: my sword descends into attack and almost hits the Conq.

I can't even tell if this a troll post or not, the attacks obviously haven't their i-frames yet... That's like saying Shinobi's kick doesn't have hyperarmor just because you can be hit out of a kick for the first 20% of it.

Now this is just hilarious from you in particular Pepsi. So you can post clips of you playing Orochi badly and Shinobi bugs and somehow blame it on Kensei via theory crafting but my clips proving you wrong are a troll post.... just lol.

Okay. If you refuse to admit that you were wrong all this time when you plundered on saying "Kensei gets i-frames! He can't be interrupted out of swift strike!" then I will stop taking you seriously at all from now on. I mean you have literally said these things and you have the gall to deny the evidence in my clips that disprove your claims. Okay then my dude... lol.

Mad? he dodged on same side then attacked... My bad didn't fully explain that scenario, I just blew this whole post off when I saw him utilizing the move wrong...

Try again mate. I dodged towards the Conq but got caught. I dodged away from the Raider and got caught. Two different sides unless you're blind or didn't actually watch both clips. If Kensei had these legendary i-frames then at least the Conq would not have caught me because I was well into the attack animation on that one.

You aren't supposed to ever use kensei's dodge attack immediately. You always delay it and react to what the opponent gives you...

Not when you know that he will throw out his attack and you're in a gank situation. If you wait in that scenario you'll get grabbed or hit during your dodge if you're in a crowded gank situation. "You aren't even supposed to use blah blah..." Lol no. Just no dude. You use whatever attack is suitable for the situation and try to surprise the opponent. If you create a pattern you're as good as dead. If he's letting his attacks rip and I see it why would I delay my swift strike?

My examples here are not to prove how "git gud" I am so I have no idea why you're trying to come in like some fight expert. They're here to disprove the bullsh/t i-frames theory that every crybaby and their mother band wagons on.

If he delayed the attack on the first video the scenario wouldn't have ever gone down like that for he would have blocked...

When someone rushes to put videos out to show why a certain move is fine and failing at that, my response is usually in the same quality.

My dude, feel free to make a counter clip video showing that Kensei gets i-frames without it actually just being a lame a$$ clip of Kensei correctly dodging attacks. You know, actual video evidence of a weapon phasing straight through Kensei as he hits you. Not one where he dodges away from it. No one, not one single soul, has yet to make this type of video showing these mythical i-frames. I just made two showing there are no i-frames during the actual attack animation, which certain people on here have been wrongfully claiming was a thing.

[Vakris_One]

The startup on Kenseis dodge attack IS slower than others though. Try dodge attacking out of warden shoulder vortex if he releases immediately (2nd shoulder in chain after side DL). You will still get hit while the assassins cover both shoulder and grab with dodge attack.

On other note:
It clearly shows that it doesnt have unlimited iframes all the time unbeatable herpderp which was the whole point. The raider one in particular is just a super late hit.

"It clearly shows that it doesnt have unlimited iframes all the time unbeatable herpderp which was the whole point."
^ Thank you. This guy gets it.

The Raider one I added just to cover both scenarios of Kensei being hit out of his swift strike at the startup just in case someone tries to claim that "but... but... he's invincible at the startup.". The Conq clip is the one that truly disproves this "unbeatable i-frames" nonsense talk.