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If you decide to buff him again, then buff his defensive stance, it's just so bad. Nothing about that stance is good.
Why is Highlander the worst character in the game when he's in defense stance? atleast make that stance better then what it is.
That stance alone holds back his potential. Also it's hard to tell the difference between each highlanders gameplay because they are forced to play 1 style which is the superior one in Offense Stance.
Why can't defensive highlander gameplay be a thing? It's either Offense or go home.
His Celtic Curse is still terrible. That move just doesn't get the job done.
Defense stance is just so bad makes my head hurt.I'll take a offense baylors might dmg nerf to see defense stance receive a proper buff.
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His multi directional crushing counter is pretty good imo.Originally Posted by RenegadeTX2000 Go to original post
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It's good when you land it... But when you need it, it's awful.Originally Posted by Tyrjo Go to original post
and the characters you need it for it's completely useless against because you can't activate it in time. Mainly characters with fast dodge attacks that are also heavies, Shaman, Peacekeeper.
You won't get it on Kensei because he can delay it into his dodge so late that he can see if you were to bait him into actually using that move. The amount of time kensei has to decide to use that dodge attack is insane.
Every other character that has a dodge attack that's a light, HIghlander is better off getting the parry into his unblockable for damage.
Put it in a scenario when you are actually trying to use that move and your opponent is constantly switching guards so you don't get that Crushing counterstrike and your opponent just randomly zones to throw you off...
Also let's say you throw your light attack out or bait with heavy and they option select zone attack, you actually get punished if it was a light and you get hit out of your heavy bait. It's a lose, lose. His light attack is just too slow for offense or defense.
They are either focused on parrying your light or they are smothering you so if you do throw light they can punish you for a whiff...
The only reason that the zone option select works on both his attack options of light/heavy is because the armor on his raw heavies takes a good decade to actually activate... If that armor came out faster, 200ms faster. Then Crushing counter strike would be a lot better.
The fear factor of armor heavy coming out that quickly would negate the dreaded zone option select that destroys highlander.
Being guard broken when Celtic curse is half way out is also annoying. I mean HIghlander gets GB'd so easily for going for a raw heavy.. it's only fair if armor became active much quicker.
And Celtic Curse is just so easy to dodge. I understand going celtic curse feint into offensive stance, but it's not good. Characters can dodge attack ALL your options. if you follow through with top heavy, if you spin attack, or if you cancel. They will dodge attack and beat all 3 options at once, it's terrible.. There's a timing to it, but once you learn it you can remove Celtic Curse from his kit.
Celtic Curse needs another buff and his raw heavies need to activate on armor quicker. Same weaknesses and baits, easy to be GB'd but give it faster armor so he can trade against hyper aggressive players that smother him.
Celtic Curse needs better options and it could easily be fixed if you made his spin attacks undodgeable... That would make Celtic Curse great again. Characters with dodge attacks would seriously have to respect him going for that and it would fit into his design of trading along with raw heavy quicker activation.
I was giving it thought, Shove on block is dumb... that's a no. More Offensive stance buffs, that's a no. "lied, i want his offensive lights to have better tracking."
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Also one more thing that's terrible about defense stance. If you throw a heavy and bait your opponent into going for parry, you get zero punishes. You don't even get to GB punish them, it's reset back to where it was, if you do go for GB they would have already cancelled their attempt at parrying your heavy, leaving them safe... Terrible lol.
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His defense stance is what will hold him back from success. One Trick pony character. 1 stance or no stance. Stay in defense stance and you are bound to lose, because all his options from defense stance are underwhelming and easily beat out.
1 option beats all of his options both ways.
Fast zone attack? you beat his light/heavy mix up game...
Dodge attack? You beat all 3 options of Celtic Curse because if he were to choose cancelling into offense stance he pauses for a moment before being able to move.
If you have both fast zone and dodge attack, you beat highlander 6-4 or 7-3...
The characters that don't have that lose to highlander FOR NOW, wait til they get reworked... So far every reworked character beats highlander besides Conqueror and that's a 50/50 match up.
If the trend continues then Highlander will be losing to all reworked/buffed characters for the simple fact his defense stance underperforms... It really does... Every highlander now rushes to get into offense stance, they don't even use celtic curse anymore, they just retreat light or go into the stance once you see them.
Buff his raw defense stance heavies and the ability to GB quicker after cancel and make his celtic curse spin attack undodgeable and his defense kit is back to being useable.
Beating 3 options with 1 option... Isn't cool lol
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Also back to conqueror, if he were to receive those buffs it wouldn't effect his match up with conqueror at all because the mu itself is determined by using his offense stance. no amount of defensive buffs would help vs conqueror.
If highlander does any celtic curse, Conqueror should just zone and cancel into possible shield bash pressure. Highlander must start on offense stance. Only way
BUT THE CHARACTERS THAT SHUT DOWN HIS OFFENSE STANCE. KENSEI!!!!!!!!!!! Kensei, boy o boy, Assassins... Then he has to rely on his defense stance, and yeah.. you lost. lol You don't rely on defense stance, you lose in defense stance...
Conqueror>>>Defense Stance...
Offense Stance=Conqueror.
Kensei>>>>>Offense Stance.
Kensei>>>>Defense Stance.
Any character in the game>>>>>Defense Stance.
Valkyrie>>>Defense Stance
Pre patch orochi at his worse>>>Defense Stance.
Give me the worst character to ever exist in for honor>>>>Defense Stance.
Defense stance is a ticking time bomb.
