PvE Bot Difficulty determined by PvP performance is Illogical | Forums

[DoomSplitter]

I'm a PvE player and im stuck with level 1 bots when id rather be fighting level 2-3. The only way I can change this is if I go onto PvP and try to win some games. I havent played Pvp since launch times and I've little interest to try and settle into the meta now, I play the game to relax.

Why tie the bots you face to PvP? They are totally different beasts played by generally different kinds of players. You wouldent have your PvP matchmaking be determined by how well you fight bots! If we cant have a system that lets us choose what level we want to fight we could at least have a system that monitors how well your doing in PvE and adjusts the difficulty of the bots accordingly.

I know issues around this have been brought up multiple times before but its worth bringing up again until PvE players can finnaly have some sort of control over their experience.

[Cliff_001]

Agreed, especially with dead game modes like deathmatch. Those will always be level 1's because nobody plays it.

[DoomSplitter]

Thats unfortunate I use to get level 2s but I took a break from the game and upon my return everything is level 1. Custom games are fun but theres zero rewards.

[ArmoredChocobo]

I’d rather see them fill the skill gap between bot levels.

2’s are a yawner whereas 3 has inhuman reaction times.

[AkenoKobayashi]

I think it's just a way of passive aggressively forcing us to endure the nonsense of PvP. Your skill level is also tied into it. I have had games where I'm thrown into a game with team mates whose Rep levels combined don't even reach a tenth of my total Rep levels, but somehow they have higher skill than me. Only because they played one or two PvP games, and did relatively well, so they somehow have more skill than someone who has played since launch, and has played a handful of PvP games before sticking purely to PvE. Either let us decide the difficulty of the bots in vs AI or have a separate skill calculator for it.

[DoomSplitter]

@ArmouredChocobo That would be great too the difference between 2 and 3 is huge but even so it would still only matter for custom games and training right now because you have no control over difficulty in PvE

@AkenoKobayashi I sometimes think that too but I was sold this game in the belief that PvE was a valid way to play the game. I know PvP you get more XP and some exclusive rewards thats fine I dont care Its just seperating the two modes so one doesnt determine the other

I dont play with matchmaking on because when you have 4 players it gets even easier than by yourself. It was a greater challenge trying to GET KILLED by the bots because usually my rep 80+ team mates would get their and slaughter him before he could get me, even when im just spamming taunts!

It was a PvE match where I was the lowest rep (22) with the others being vastly higher yet still only level 1 bots.

[AkenoKobayashi]

There was a time where level 3 bots were common for people with my skill level. It was fun. Then people realized they weren't as good as they thought, so they complained to Ubi to switch it back to the old ways. Now veterans like me get frail level 1 bots.

[ThatMetalDude]

Please just let us choose which bots to fight! You’re not going to get me to play PvP by refusing to let me have fun with bots, I’d sooner find another game to play. I know it’s stupid, but PvP generally makes me anxious, and I don’t have any fun as a result, even when I’m winning.

I see that you’ve planned to release an actual PvE mode when Marching Fire launches, so the PvAI players can’t be THAT meaningless to you, right? Just add an option for choosing bot levels, even if it is just a binary: all lvl 3 bots or matchmaking bots.

[AkenoKobayashi]

It's official. I've fought so many level 1 bots that a level 2 Gladbot outplayed me. Thanks, Ubisoft.

[JediGamerFurius]

I totaly agree with this post. I'm also more PVE player than PVP. And to be honest I really think they should think this through when you will be able to choose the bot's levels. I was in a match and its kind of boring see ppl chasing bots lvl 1 just to farm and playing a dominion like a skirmisher match. At least I should be able to change one bot.