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    Survival and the Stealth Extraction

    This has happened more then a few times but it doesn't seem to be consistent, but it is almost always the same story each time. PvP Surival, it starts with less then 10 players everyone eliminated down to the last 2, myself and the prey. Now lasts night I was just a few minutes getting to the DZ behind the other guy. Soon as I enter I see that he has already looted the boxes in this area. He was the 1st into the DZ and all other players are dead. So I start tracking the loot and stay on his path picking up DTech as I go. Eventually track him back to the safehouse. So I run in and gear up, expecting a great climatic battle, the whole time watching for signs of his name or an extraction. Nothing. It took me a few minutes to get geared and I get back outside waiting for the fight. 15 to 20 minutes later, it says on the screen only 1 player left. WTH!? It never said he left the game, it never said he died to NPC, and it never said he extracted. Where did he go?

    Like I said before, I have had this happen several times. I see players die all the time and their corpses never appear on the map. I have watched players die in front of me and them leave no loot, when I know they had loot. For a gamemode that has been pretty much untouched by Ubi and Massive, why is this weird stuff happening more and more?
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    ive all but quit playing it which is a shame as i love it but the lag is so bad lately, especially in the menus that i just get frustrated with it. Probably had a lag spike when he called the extraction and never saw it shoot off but who knows. Did you look at the end once you extracted to see if you were first to extract?
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    Originally Posted by moesuvious Go to original post
    ive all but quit playing it which is a shame as i love it but the lag is so bad lately, especially in the menus that i just get frustrated with it. Probably had a lag spike when he called the extraction and never saw it shoot off but who knows. Did you look at the end once you extracted to see if you were first to extract?
    2nd to extract.
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    From what Ive seen there is a definite correlation between the state of the servers (lag) and elements of the gui/audio. Take for instance players in my group shown as lvl 1 in the Warrengate/LZ. Or my sidearm info missing from my gui. Or missing player health bars. Add to that the well know issues with audio delays from the dz and lz..... players going rogue, squadmates on the floor etc and this just looks like another symptom of insufficient or 2nd rate server/conn. resources.

    I can remember those particular audio delay for survival being there from the start!
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    Originally Posted by agentCoats Go to original post
    From what Ive seen there is a definite correlation between the state of the servers (lag) and elements of the gui/audio. Take for instance players in my group shown as lvl 1 in the Warrengate/LZ. Or my sidearm info missing from my gui. Or missing player health bars. Add to that the well know issues with audio delays from the dz and lz..... players going rogue, squadmates on the floor etc and this just looks like another symptom of insufficient or 2nd rate server/conn. resources.

    I can remember those particular audio delay for survival being there from the start!
    Yes there has always been some issues, but it seems worse now. I don't win every battle, but hate playing PvP if no PvP is going to exist.
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    Originally Posted by heraklid1 Go to original post
    He prolly extracted when you were in the safehouse gearing up
    So the problem with this is where.

    A) It never said he extracted, no signs of him ever calling it in.

    B) It didn't say anything about me being the last agent till 15 to 20 minutes of me looking and waiting for him.

    C) I know he entered the DZ right before me. So I know he didn't have time to build a flare gun and extract without me get some kind of sign.

    I believe it was some kind of lag, but really long enough for him to signal, kill a hunter, and leave and it never showed on the map or sent a message.
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    I know on XBOX if you exit the game(The Division) and launch it again it gives the option to join the session again, it never sends a notification that you rejoined the server. also if you were downed by an NPC and rejoined the session it removes the downed instance. so if you extract it will say that you were never downed. It has been this way since survival started
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    Originally Posted by AsunderWheat88 Go to original post
    I know on XBOX if you exit the game(The Division) and launch it again it gives the option to join the session again, it never sends a notification that you rejoined the server. also if you were downed by an NPC and rejoined the session it removes the downed instance. so if you extract it will say that you were never downed. It has been this way since survival started
    Is that when it shows players downed on the map, but no loot left behind?
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    yeah I have seen some those early in a sessions when agents are getting killed sometimes agents are not there. then server count increases when they get back in guess it could be delta errors and they just rejoin the session. I have only had one match where I got the message 1 agent left multiple times. I figured it they were just having connection problems or maybe they were just trying to bait me to extract
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    Originally Posted by AsunderWheat88 Go to original post
    yeah I have seen some those early in a sessions when agents are getting killed sometimes agents are not there. then server count increases when they get back in guess it could be delta errors and they just rejoin the session. I have only had one match where I got the message 1 agent left multiple times. I figured it they were just having connection problems or maybe they were just trying to bait me to extract
    I was the 2nd to extract according to my final scores. So he had to extract. No one else was alive at the time.
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