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[Azrakel2]

The Biggest problem Ubi soft faces with for honor

Greetings all I wanted to take the time to address what I feel is the biggest problem with for honor at this point In time. What I feel the biggest problem with For honor is at this time. Is not just simply the game mechanics or exploits found and listed within these very forums. But is the lack in dealing with such problems listed. As ive mentioned a few of these problems and Exploits and balance changes needed for for honor. The problem is the time it takes in dealing with them. While I understand it takes time and a collection of data to deal with the problem. Betweent he vast amount of matches, duels and fights that take place in For Honor. There should be enough data collected to deal with the problem almost effective Immediately. The Fact is why does it take so long to deal with the problems listed in balancing for honor. The maintence or patches to fix these problems should be done almost weekly if. Yet there done according to the seasons as they come for the game. I belive that this is truly an ineffective way to deal with such problems. As the problems, Exploits and inbalance of the game are allowed to continue for months befor finaly getting fixed.


What should be done to correct this problem.


My suggestion is that when a exploit, bug, or imbalance is found within the game. It should be dealt with and corrected on a weekly basis to continue the games stability and keep it balanced and keep folks from taking advantage of the various exploits within the game. While its good to respond to the forums as quick as Ubi does. The fact that a patch or mainentence needed to correct the problem takes as long as it does is just a ineffective way of fixing the problems. Agian in closing I would suggest a quicker patch and maintence when fixing the addressed issues as they come up on the forums

[UbiJurassic]

The Biggest problem Ubi soft faces with for honor

Greetings all I wanted to take the time to address what I feel is the biggest problem with for honor at this point In time. What I feel the biggest problem with For honor is at this time. Is not just simply the game mechanics or exploits found and listed within these very forums. But is the lack in dealing with such problems listed. As ive mentioned a few of these problems and Exploits and balance changes needed for for honor. The problem is the time it takes in dealing with them. While I understand it takes time and a collection of data to deal with the problem. Betweent he vast amount of matches, duels and fights that take place in For Honor. There should be enough data collected to deal with the problem almost effective Immediately. The Fact is why does it take so long to deal with the problems listed in balancing for honor. The maintence or patches to fix these problems should be done almost weekly if. Yet there done according to the seasons as they come for the game. I belive that this is truly an ineffective way to deal with such problems. As the problems, Exploits and inbalance of the game are allowed to continue for months befor finaly getting fixed.


What should be done to correct this problem.


My suggestion is that when a exploit, bug, or imbalance is found within the game. It should be dealt with and corrected on a weekly basis to continue the games stability and keep it balanced and keep folks from taking advantage of the various exploits within the game. While its good to respond to the forums as quick as Ubi does. The fact that a patch or mainentence needed to correct the problem takes as long as it does is just a ineffective way of fixing the problems. Agian in closing I would suggest a quicker patch and maintence when fixing the addressed issues as they come up on the forums

Thanks for sharing your concerns. The team works hard to correct many different bugs that occur in-game in a timely manner. Much of this is addressed via live updates and weekly maintenances that do not require downloading a new patch. However, the fixes for more complicated issues some times involve players having to download a new patch, and therefore the fixes are held until the full patch is ready to go live.

As for exploits, if you ever find any within the game, please make sure to make a video of it or take a screenshot that best showcases the exploit and send it over to our support team.

[Jedioutcast88]

Thanks for sharing your concerns. The team works hard to correct many different bugs that occur in-game in a timely manner. Much of this is addressed via live updates and weekly maintenances that do not require downloading a new patch. However, the fixes for more complicated issues some times involve players having to download a new patch, and therefore the fixes are held until the full patch is ready to go live.

As for exploits, if you ever find any within the game, please make sure to make a video of it or take a screenshot that best showcases the exploit and send it over to our support team.

My question I have to ask does anyone in the developerment team even play for honor’s multiplayer? Not to come across sounding rude or anything,it’s just any player that picks this game up even once can see what’s wrong with the game. You have people on this forum that share ideas or address issues that do hurt this game, things that have been going on for a year now are still present. You ask for evidence of exploits just play the game any match and you will come across them. It doesn’t take an expert game designer to figure this out. We are the consumers not employees of Ubisoft we don’t get payed to tell you what needs to be addressed with your game we do it because we enjoy your game and we want to see it succeed just as much as you guys do. We offer support by buying the game, the season pass, and the steel packs. We shouldn’t have to be the ones reporting issues, bugs, exploits, or anything technical with the game.

The developers of for honor however have done an excellent job in delivering a smooth and fun game on the PC. There are still issues that are present on the PC version but a lot of that could i looked past because the mechanics of the game feel and play smoother. The console version right now is a hot mess. The offense out ways the defense which brings the issues of light attack spamming, gank squads/death balling. Last couple of days playing on PC I have found that the fights are a lot slower pass and few players go in wildly swing because they know can hold them off and even come out victorious in a ganking situation. Console end people go in wildly swing because they know that the person they are attacking no matter how good they are can’t fend them off. I have stated this in other post but the changes and additions made to the game has benefited PC version while breaking the console version. This isn’t something that needs time for data collecting or looking into I could tell the difference in how For Honor plays with in my first match in dominion on PC after just playing on PS4. This should be something that is corrected as soon as possible. Not many gamers have the advantage or opportunity to have both PC and console version of for honor or even a PC that can play for honor at a decent frame rate.

[Soldier_of_Dawn]

If this is not taking place already, perhaps For Honor needs a permanent team of testers for each set of servers, e.g PC Europe, US Xbox, etc., until the plug is pulled from the game. That way bugs and exploits will be detected sooner.

[Azrakel2]

Its not just that that's the problem. The Fact is they made there game to where matches become so one sided its not even funny. And yet daily when I don't take a break and address the primary issues plaguing this game. The same issues that have been plaguing the game since launch. It seems nothings done. While in some respects it seems action is taken immediately. While I respect ubi Soft as a company. And the same respect is given to the developer team. There has to be a middle ground that can be reached. And it needs to be sooner then later. Honestly I will say it at this point. The old Defense meta was better then the current state of the game. The Fact im repetively stunned into witch I cant evade counter attack or do anything but stand there and take hit after hit after hit. Its just totally Rediculous not being able to evade or counter attack or turn the tides cause im stunned constantly. The fact the icon to counter gaurd break appears way to early and doesn't even give enough reaction time to counter it. Agian pure lack luster. I get some folks reaction times are faster then others. But not all folks have the same reaction timing or reflexes. Ubi needs to meet the middle ground sooner then later. I gurentee it if they did this. More folks would play there game. I gaurentee more folks would be less willing to quit a match and be willing to stay and learn to play rather then to find a match that would be more suitable to them. Agian the fact is the game needs to be fixed sooner then later.

Edit.
Also adding in here that the unblockables are making matches and fights just purly one sided as well. The fact they can be used to interrupt a dodge counter attack. Repetively drain stamina to keep a player from recovering. Agian it all points to the fact that the Devs have allowed these design flaws witch make matches purly one sided. Truly needs to be fixed. Its no wonder the Frusteration playing this game. As well as the reviews for it are as bad as they are

[Camemberto]

This is what I think happened:

They saw that Defense was too strong. (turteling)
They buffed offense.
They buffed offense some more.
They broke defense by buffing offense some more.

And the route they took to buff offense was TIMING! The "good" attacks are those that are very hard to react to.
Now this COULD have worked, if there wasn't a console version, that suffers an inherent disadvantage in the field of reactability. The Console version is completely f*cked due to those changes.

Also it's now either winning brutally hard or getting obliterated brutally hard. There is no middle ground. That's because offense and defense are both way to strong.

What they should have done in the first place, was to nerf defense (WAY beyond the point, where parry doesn't guarantee GB)
Defense was (and still is) too good of an offense. Defense should be purely defensesive. A way to neglect damage. Not more.

[FlabbiestBusMan]

Pay to win and dedicated servers are why this game is dying. Ill still play but thanks to ubisoft puting in microtransactions this game has about oh maybe a year left. Thanks for ruining an awesome game ubisoft maybe Steam will do something better.

[Soldier_of_Dawn]

Pay to win and dedicated servers are why this game is dying. Ill still play but thanks to ubisoft puting in microtransactions this game has about oh maybe a year left. Thanks for ruining an awesome game ubisoft maybe Steam will do something better.

How can you pay to win? Even with champion status speeding the process of getting higher gear by 40%, it still takes a considerable amount of time to get there and you'll lose some matches on the way. In duels and brawls, gear stats are disabled. This game is primarily skilled based and you're normally matched against someone of similar skill. No skill, no victories.

[Azrakel2]

This is what I think happened:

They saw that Defense was too strong. (turteling)
They buffed offense.
They buffed offense some more.
They broke defense by buffing offense some more.

And the route they took to buff offense was TIMING! The "good" attacks are those that are very hard to react to.
Now this COULD have worked, if there wasn't a console version, that suffers an inherent disadvantage in the field of reactability. The Console version is completely f*cked due to those changes.

Also it's now either winning brutally hard or getting obliterated brutally hard. There is no middle ground. That's because offense and defense are both way to strong.

What they should have done in the first place, was to nerf defense (WAY beyond the point, where parry doesn't guarantee GB)
Defense was (and still is) too good of an offense. Defense should be purely defensesive. A way to neglect damage. Not more.

I tend to agree with what you say here. And the fact remains that still nothing has been done to fix it. Since the open beta. Ive complained there was a massive problem with gaurd break and gaurd break spam. Those complaints I feel sadley fell on deaf ears. I even had gotten a response that gaurd break wasn't going to be changed at one time. However the problem with gaurd break remains that the icon to counter it still appears far to early. I mean it literaly shows up befor the opponent even gaurd breaks you. So that buy the time you react the gaurd break is done and cant be counterd. Unless you literaly hit the button at the same time. Its poor a design as it dosent account for a fair fight only allowing for a free attack. Secondly you have the fact that gaurd break can just about counter anything. Specifically dodging. Its counter productive to the game and agian takes away from the fight. As its simply put made gaurd break to OP. Then you have the unblockables. Unblockables should buy all means be a stand alone move. They shouldn't be able to chain into gaurd break. As gaurd break should be a stand alone move as well. The reason I say this is as you have said It allows for players to be Obliterated without the chance of the fair fight. As all the player will need to do is. Unblockable > Gaurd Break > Drain Stamina > Rinse Repeat = Easy talentless win. Agian Unblockables and Gaurd break need to be stand alone moves without Unblockables chaining into Gaurd break. When they fix this and make it so that Dodging can no longer be stoped buy gaurd break. So that gaurd breaks countering icon appears after the Gaurd break is done not before or at the start. And when they make it so that unblockables and gaurd break are a stand alone move and cant be chained together. ill have seen the fixes that need to be made. Those are the biggest issues in game so far.

[DracoSafarius]

I agree with all of this. While it doesn't cover every issue seen in the game, it hits on major ones.