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[Specialkha]

Wind Gust does not have HA.
Learn to know when to use it.

So what? PK has know only 1 or 2 tools viables, so you say. So? Should we cry for you? Even with only that, she is still Tier A or S. What a big deal.

And we should not use reality stuff in the game as I have seen previously (Raider should do more dmg than pk because big guy and big axe), because LB would be unkillable by the majority of the cast.

[ChampionRuby50g]

Because they "sold" this massive Nerf and Bugfix on PK as a Rework, which it is simply not at all. I am with you for the Valk, but Shugo? He is a pain in Dominion and a turtle Shugo who waits for nothing else than a GB into Demon Embrace is hard to kill in Duel, too. Yes, his playstyle is boring, but compare it to PK please -> both have ONE, maybe two viable moves (Zone and Dagger Cancel on PK, Light into Headbutt and GB into Demon Embrace on Shugo). Super boring for both the players and their opponents.

I am not asking for a full Rework on PK. Just lower her stamina costs and e.g. buff deep gouge / dagger cancel damage back to 15, and for the sake of Deflects - give it Hyperarmor! It is such a useless move right now as it will end in a trade in 95% of cases anyway, with Hyperarmor it will at least get through in 1vX situations. Isn't it the only Deflect without HA atm?

Yeah I’m pretty shocked how they had the nerve to do that, at least call it a balance pass with bug fixes instead of misleading the community.
Personally I wouldn’t even call DE viable. You can see it coming from neutral a mile off, it’s fairly easy to CGB in general and even if the Shugo does get the GB there is no guarantee that there will be a wall nearby. It’s characters like this, one trick ponies, that rely on one aspect of their move list to remain viable such as Shugos passive hyper armor, and LBs impale. Feats are an entire different discussion so I’m not gonna mention them.

If all it takes is simple number changes, which seems to be the case, then yeah Ubi should go on and do it. I reckon that PKs heavy attacks should have a damage buff considering that you can’t even land one on GB, and the changes you suggested.

[Knight_Raime]

Because they "sold" this massive Nerf and Bugfix on PK as a Rework, which it is simply not at all. I am with you for the Valk, but Shugo? He is a pain in Dominion and a turtle Shugo who waits for nothing else than a GB into Demon Embrace is hard to kill in Duel, too. Yes, his playstyle is boring, but compare it to PK please -> both have ONE, maybe two viable moves (Zone and Dagger Cancel on PK, Light into Headbutt and GB into Demon Embrace on Shugo). Super boring for both the players and their opponents.

I am not asking for a full Rework on PK. Just lower her stamina costs and e.g. buff deep gouge / dagger cancel damage back to 15, and for the sake of Deflects - give it Hyperarmor! It is such a useless move right now as it will end in a trade in 95% of cases anyway, with Hyperarmor it will at least get through in 1vX situations. Isn't it the only Deflect without HA atm?

I feel for you as a pk main but to compare her to shugoki in terms of viable moves is a complete stretch. Her kit is miles better than goki's. Even if you played against the best of the best rendering most of her kit useless that's not a kit flaw. Nearly every kit in the game would fall off hard at that level that you supposedly play in.

I think the only deflect in the game that has HA is hurricane blast. As for giving her deflect HA i'm unsure on that. the ability to multi deflect kind of takes the purpose of that away imo. I think a more creative way to make it useful would be to make it trigger all the current bleed damage that's stacked at once. That way the person can't escape the fight and be healed in some fashion. And/or could see making the deflect count as a heavy. So she'd be the first hero to be able to execute on deflect. Wouldn't change her in 1v1 but it would give a reason to aim for the deflect in team modes.

[PanzerShrekonin]

PK is in a good place right now in comparison to most of the OG heroes, She can stay where she is as shes not TERRIBLE.

[EvoX.]

No.

1. She's in a better spot than around 70% of the cast
2. She needed the nerfs to damage, it did not make sense how hard she hit
3. One of the best FH players still places her in S-tier, though other top players disagree and drop her down to A, an opinion which I share

Overall, she's more in line with the rest of the cast now, and that's still putting it gently considering the only heroes she definitely loses to are Zerk and Conq, everyone else is either a toss up or she's favored against them. That is objectively an extremely good position to be in, but... some players here can't stand not playing an S-tier. Tsk, tsk.

Something that she definitely does need is a deflect buff - currently it's pretty bad, and by that I mean it's literally the worst in the game. Just buff its damage to around 30 and make it go through hyper armor somehow, she now has the ability to soft feint out of every heavy with a dodge, so a deflect buff would be in line.

However, before PK is even considered for more changes, the mains of the following characters:

Shugoki
Valkyrie
Lawbringer
Warden
Aramusha
Centurion

... would like to get their turn, plus hopefully a ticket to playing an actually viable hero, something that PK still is. Other than a deflect buff, or a number of buffs in exchange for her Zone option select, she really should be touched anymore.

[PanzerShrekonin]

No.

1. She's in a better spot than around 70% of the cast
2. She needed the nerfs to damage, it did not make sense how hard she hit
3. One of the best FH players still places her in S-tier, though other top players disagree and drop her down to A, an opinion which I share

Overall, she's more in line with the rest of the cast now, and that's still putting it gently considering the only heroes she definitely loses to are Zerk and Conq, everyone else is either a toss up or she's favored against them. That is objectively an extremely good position to be in, but... some players here can't stand not playing an S-tier. Tsk, tsk.

Something that she definitely does need is a deflect buff - currently it's pretty bad, and by that I mean it's literally the worst in the game. Just buff its damage to around 30 and make it go through hyper armor somehow, she now has the ability to soft feint out of every heavy with a dodge, so a deflect buff would be in line.

However, before PK is even considered for more changes, the mains of the following characters:

Shugoki
Valkyrie
Lawbringer
Warden
Aramusha
Centurion

... would like to get their turn, plus hopefully a ticket to playing an actually viable hero, something that PK still is. Other than a deflect buff, or a number of buffs in exchange for her Zone option select, she really should be touched anymore.

I'd actually like to see what a Shugoki rework would look like. Like just how would they change him is what I wanna know.

I'd really like a centurion rework.

[BTTrinity]

Want decent mixups with a very strong CC and survivability? Shaman

Want strong counter attacks with a very strong CC? Shino

Want fast counter attacks with very strong deflects? Orochi

Want strong Mixups with hyper armor on everything you throw and a godly deflect? zerk

What does PK do better then these guys exactly? Her damage is not worth the stamina consumption, her CC was made very unreliable after parry changes (No more free gb into triple stab) sorry but theres no reason to use PK over the other assassins.

She needs some damage buffs (In between what they are now, and what they were)

Along with stamina reduction costs across the board.

[PanzerShrekonin]

Peacekeeper needs to be left alone. There are WAY more people who need help than Peacekeeper who is IN a good spot. Sure, she's not as good as she once was, but no one waqnts her to be like that.


Peacekeeper is fine.

Lets focus on Warden, Lawbringer, Centurion, Shugoki, Warlord, Raider, Valk... you know what lets focus on the entire cast that hasn't been good in a long time.

Peacekeeper needs to be bottom of the barrel for choices to work on right now.