She needs a buff.
Her damage is horrible.
Even with her bleeds, her damage is overtaken by everyone. Orochi does what she does, faster. Highlander does what she does, faster. Centurion does what she does, faster. There are so many people that can do way more damage than she can in a shorter timeframe. Her bleed doesn't even have a special mechanic to it other than making you wait for your enemy to die from the damage you already inflicted, which gives them a lot of time to kill you before they die.
She doesn't have anything special.
Her backdodge was the main factor of her winrate, getting her out of trouble when she needed to without consequence. However, that has been dramatically nerfed. That, mixed with her severe loss of damage that turned her sword into a butter knife, she needs some sort of tool to help her along. Orochi has backsteps that have the range she used to have, Shaman has a crapton of range, Gladiator has multiple bashes and unblockables, Shinobi has his range and maneuverability, and Berserker has hyperarmor on basically everything. PK needs some sort of extra move or mechanic to help her actually counter her enemy. She's being portrayed as an aggressor but has none of the tools to do that or counter attack the enemy as she is classified to do.
Everything she has, is done significantly better. Orochi basically has her speed, but does more damage, has more tools, and has the range she used to have. Every other assassin outdamages her while keeping pace. I did not main her before the rework, but I was training up with her before the rework in the hopes that she would be fun and balanced to play. I didn't expect her to get so completely useless.
I said people are over-reacting about her, but I was dead wrong... After all day of playing PK I've noticed the following.
Shaman is a better comparison for PK considering she has literally everything out of PK's kit or better.
Sham's dagger cancel is superior to PK in every possibly way, more utility due to being able to cancel in all directions and having more damage.
Sham's Gap Closer is superior to PK in every possible way, again more "Utility due to being able to cancel in all directions and having more damage."
Shaman has unblockables in her moveset: one of which is an infinitely better and easier to access CC option than PK could ever wish to have. A cancelable 500 ms UB bash thats guaranteed off a GB, can wallsplat and to top it all off... It turns into a 50+ damage cutscene when the target is bleeding.
PK's deflect is still... eh
What makes it the worst is most of her damage comes from bleed, a damage type thats negated by 2 stats on gear. (Debuff AND defense stack against bleed, if im not mistaking)
How does this chick have the title "Jack of all trades" when shes literally excels at one thing out of each persons kit.
There is no reason to use PK over the other 3 assassins right now, its kind of a shame.
My suggestion for her is:
Give her the option to cancel bleeds to any direction
Give her the option to lunge from any direction with the same frame-times as Orochi's and Shaman's gap closers.
reduce stamina costs ACROSS THE BOARD
Slightly increase damage across the board besides bleed moves. (find a good in-between what it is now, and what it was)
Right now, I can definitely see her falling down to B tier in both duels and 4v4's
On one hand I'm slightly tickled that the PK mains are struggling in the other hand I'm still miffed at ubis unconditional love for the one character that in all honesty shouldn't even be in the game, the shaman.
I know that this isn't a game of realism but it's also not a game of harry potter magic. There is just no explanation for a Bipolar homeless chick with a hatchet and a hunting knife being able to even scratch the armor of a lawbringer, kensei or even an orochi lol. Every time I see her ridiculous kit and hear her stupid screams I fail to see what people love about her. Really a dumb character.
At least when I was beat by a pk it was mostly because I made huge mistakes.
I started playing her after her nerf and after playing her 6 reps in duel and dominion i feel like her heavys should do a bit more dmg. 20dmg on a 800ms attack that isnt confirmed off a gb is weird.Atleast her heavy opener should do like 25+dmg. This weekend there was a execution order over 10 executions and i struggled so hard to cemplete it just because you need perfect conditions to get an execution in a 1v1.
Otherwise im fine with her
Yeah, they completely destroyed her. I am a Rep 50 PK, played her since S1. I know she was too strong back then, and she received plenty of nerfs, mainly damage of dodge-attacks and the zone attack was targeted. And with this patch now they nerfed everything on her damage-wise, even dodge-attacks again.
I cannot understand this. Zerker got Hyperarmor everywhere plus 400ms Lights after a Heavy feint. Kensei got an Unblockable from neutral and plenty of soft-feints plus new moves and chains together with damage buffs. Conq got guaranteed Unblockables, damage buffs, faster Lights, infinite chain and probably the best OOS pressure in the game.
What did PK get?
- Stunning Tap 0.5 which deals massive 10 (!!!) damage compared to Raiders dealing 18 damage (plus it stuns and is way better due to the Unblockable it can be soft-feinted from)
- Nerfs on almost EVERY attack move, Lights, Heavies, Zone, all Dodge-Attacks (due to the bleed followup nerf also side-dodge-attacks got nerfed)
- A buff on the MOST USELESS Deflect in the game due to the amount of Hyperarmor they put on everything
- BUGFIXES on her ability to soft-feint Heavies into Light Cancels or GBs which were ALREADY in her kit in S1 and which they broke in September 2017 when they removed Timesnap
I have played her enough over the last days, she is B-Tier at best now. As PK you cannot even use your bug-fixed soft-feints mostly because people got better and PK has no way to force mistakes like ALOT of other Characters can do. The Dagger Cancel as an "Opener" is bs. It even gets parried regularly after a weekend because players know you will do it. I remember Roman calling it a "way to open up defensive players" in the Den where they showed the PK "Rework" first. The move is complete garbage from neutral because you cannot chain into anything from it, it deals only 10 bleed damage and is even blockable / parryable. Compare that to Toe Stab on Glad, which is a similar move but muuuch better...
PK is dead. I will now start to go for the FOTM Characters, too. Zerker or Orochi, not decided yet.
Everything said here is right..
The OOS punish or light parry is now very weak...
But the fact u can now makes ur opponent bleed easier and that it is now stacking are kind of balancing that i believe ?
I had the same feeling in first impressing when i went to training mode with her but after i went to 4v4 again and did kind of very big score still like 18-0 etc .. while i am only rep 9 with and have a 1.72 KD Ratio.
I see here she is compared a lot to Shaman.. and on the paper yes Shaman has so much more options and strong things in her kit.. But in real game.. Pk is still faster on everything.. lights and Zone which in my Opinion makes her stronger.
In 1v1 in a Sham VS PK matchup i would definitly pick up my PK.
But yes against ****ing turtle like Warden or LB i would take Sham for sure (rep 11 with).
You played an OP character for more than a year, and now, you are crying she had been brought down in line? Are you kidding?Originally Posted by Charmzzz Go to original post
She want OP for the whole year. Or did you miss the part where Sharma said she had revived several nerfs before now?Originally Posted by Specialkha Go to original post
There are no OP heroes in for honor, just idiots who don't want to change strategies and adapt their play style under different conditions.
I've said multiple times that player made tier listings are not only pointless but lead to infighting more often than not. You are free to pander to them as much as you want, but it's not going to help you play any better. The only thing that will improve your game play is move recognition which comes from learning a multitude of characters, particularly those you don't do well against.Originally Posted by Specialkha Go to original post