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I have for honor for PS4 and PC. I mostly play on PS4 I’m sure some of this applies to PC but manly a lot of my problems with for honor comes from the poorly ported version on PS4.
Lets start with the hate I have for this game.
1.) the stun locking in this game. I get this is a fighting game but there was a point even balls deep in a mess I still had control of my character and I had a chance to make it out alive. It’s so bad that I can’t even run away because i get stun locked with light and heavys.
2.) how poorly the developers transition this game to console. You are making characters faster then before and at 30fps even on a good day I can barely keep up. It turns a tractical fighting game into a button masher hack and slash. What’s the point of even having a move set if it only works against one player, two tops.
3.) That with every season this game seems to get worse with balancing and the game play becomes less of what For Honor was. it just shows how much you actually care about the community that’s barely keeping this game alive.
4.) you don’t listen to the players at all in the community. It shows that you don’t test anything out and if you do it’s in a very controlled environment. The community has been crying out for a lot of things this game needs and you seem to do the opposite of everything.
5.) that you pretty much did exactly what EA did with everyone of there games. The only difference is you give false hope that players can earn the in game currency that you are selling for real money. Why would any player would want to spend actual cash on a game that has so many issues that you have created.
5.) the good you actually do do with for honor gets outshined by everything that is broken in this game.
6.) the fact that I in all good conscience would neven recommend this game to a friend. If anything I would tell them everything that is wrong with the game because I can’t lie and say it’s good. The only good thing I can say about this game is at least you will have someone to play the game with?
7.) I’m getting bested not because I’m not skilled at the game because any character doesn’t move fast enough to keep up with other characters. That most of my deaths and frustration comes from a mechanic that barely works. You have a combat system based on timing and because of every factor it screws it up. I should have the same blocking, parrying, and counter skills fighting real people as I do when I fight a bot.
8.) this is what gets me the most, that you would rather put things into this game to make money first then have a good game that players would want to play. Everything about this game is either pay to win.
Now of what I love about for honor.
1.) the concept of the combat system. Probably what still keeps me playing. When it was good and functioning properly It was fun.
2.) the design and look of the character, armor, weapons, and environmental settings.
3.) the amount of costumizations that is in this game that can make any character unique.
4.) the concept of the multiplayer game modes.
5.) That this game is a game that I have dreamed about. A medieval fighting game that gives players as close to realistic fighting as possible with the ability to customize different parts of a character right down to the weapon and armor with different parts. No joke I had an idea like this ever since I was a kid, I just never thought it would come out. This reason alone is why I still play this game and have hope for it, the concept and ideas that make for honor has been something I have been waiting for for 20 years.
Ubisoft really listen to your community I know you want this to be a game that can be apart of the MLG. You know what was great about those games are? They are fun to play not just for the professional gamers but for the every day average gamer. That there is a defining skill level between players. You have a fighting game that seems to favor button mashing over players that learn character and every other part that makes up the fighting in this games. You really have a great game but it’s hard to want to keep playing when there is everything else that’s wrong and broken with for honor that drags it down. Stop thinking about filling your pockets for once. Put the time and effort in fixing the game and making it good. When will you actually start fix the game breaking issues for honor has? When will we see the for honor that players actually want?
This game has so much potential and could be one of the top fighting games. It’s only a matter of time when a more competent game developer takes this idea and do it better. You created something unique and never done before maybe instead of doing what works set the standard for how it should work.
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I truly Understand where you are coming from here with the current state of For Honor. What you have listed here are indeed some of the VAST PROBLEMS with for honor.
However instead of using the word hate as I enjoy this game myself. I will stick with the key word The Problems of For Honor. With that said let me be more specific with some of the problems you have stated here.
The problem with stun locks Aka the True problem the rampant mess dodging has become
As you have stated Stun locks have become a problem within for honor. While for Honor has had its Vast problems season to season. Witch Charachter balancing Game Mechanics ect. You have brought a good point here with For Honor. At launch Stun locks did exist. But they were never as bad as they are now. As i remember it the only time stun locks truly came into play were off of key abilities. Aka such as an orochis storm rush or off of a parry I also remember There was a time when Dodging truly was an incredible means of evading an attack and providing the means to counter attack. I also remember there was a time that stun locks did not occur so often as that you couldent dodge out of an attack and or evade an attack. The problem here specificaly is the fact that Dodging is such a rampant mess. That its no longer a viable means of being able to counter attack and or evade an attack. As all a player has to do is continuosly spam a light attack chain that keeps you stun locked until there chain is eathier complete. Or until you get that lucky means of dodging an attack. Secondly Dodging used to be a means of breaking free from a gaurd break meaning that if you used your dodge and counter attack. The odds were that your counter attack would keep them from gaurd breaking. When they changed that It allowed the means of a free attack or unearned attack. thus giving the Advantage to the player that continuosly spams Gaurd Break. leaving them to get an easy means of a victory when in fact the counter attack should have struck true. Allowing you to continue your counter attack and the fight as a whole.
The problem with dodgeing
As I said above the dodge mechanic in the game is just a rampant mess. And the developers have yet to acknowledge and or try to fix this. The problem with dodging is simply Put Its no longer viable Compared to how dodging was in the Open beta. Dodging is just a rampant mess. The problems with it are as follows.
1. Dodgeing is in effective and unviable means of Evasion. Meaning this. Wqhen you go to open up your opponent you begin your attack. And the next thing you know your being hit buy a light chain. that you just cant break free of cause of the fact that your stun locked repetively. And you Input the command to dodge and counter attack Multiple times. But yet are unable to cause your stun locked repetively. Its a lackluster that's taking away from the fight. As you have said its taking away from the means of being a tacticle fighter. As you are left unable to dodge and or break free from an attack.
2. Dodging has become to Punishible. What I mean buy this is its so high risk to dodge. Its not even worth attempting. The minut you try all that will happen is you will be gaurd broken. And or you will be hit buy a simply light chain spam that will continuously interrupt your dodge. Even more so when you dodge Into the direction of an attack. Witch brings me to a problem with The Deflect. Deflect dosent even work half the time. Its more then likely that if you do dodge in the same direction of an attack hoping to get that deflect. Instead your character ends up simply dodging with no deflect being done. Only to get Punished buy a brutal chain of light attacks or gaurd broken.
Suggestion for Fixing Stun locks / Dodgeing
1. Light Attacks should no longer be the direct cause of a Stun lock. This is counter productive to the direction of the game. Meaning that its taking away from what at the core of For honor is. As you have mentiond its a Tactical Fighter not a random button masher. The only time a stun lock should even remotely take place. Is when key Abilities such as Storm rush is used. Agian it should also come from when you Successfully parry an attack. Thus staggering the opponent and leaving Him exposed to an Attack. In turn this will make light attack chains no longer a viable means of spamming for an all out offense. It will give the player that means of being able to break free from an attack to be able to counter attack.
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First of i would like to thank you for taking the time to read my post and second I will agree that the dodge mechanic in this game does not work in the sense that it should. For example I can dodge a conqueror shield bash only to be met with his follow up attack that I am defenseless against because Of the dodge. Granted there are times where dodging plays in my favor but only with certain characters and only at certain circumstances. Dodging should be just as valuable as a parry or a block. With the light spamming that has become the meta does take a lot away from what this game once was. Since this post I have just stopped playing the PS4 version of the game and moved to PC since a majority of these problems that break the console versions don’t run as rampant on The PC version. The PC version does deliver a much smoother and enjoyable experience even tho there are still issues that exist like stun locking and light spamming but I have found I is easier to shot done. Right now in the consoles current state it’s just unplayable and not fun for me. Again thank you for reading my post and giving some good feedback.Originally Posted by Azrakel2 Go to original post
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I agree with absolutely everything you said. Nothing to add here. If anything I would drop a link to my thread on how to overhaul the defense system, but I won't.
