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Have both Old and New Riptides?
Can we have both the old and new Riptide since they both use different inputs do different damage? A light and heavy Riptide works for me. On top of that, if the old Riptide makes a return, could you make it feint-able and give it the same mix up the Hurricane Blast has? The Hurricane Blast's mix up is pretty redundant due to the risk deflects comes with. Also, given that the old input required down on the left stick and up and the right stick, could the old Riptide also have multiple directions like the new Storm Rush?
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As a prestige 27 orochi, i feel like he is a noskill character now. It is a good thing to speed up his lights cause he needed it but there is a problem with the light combos.. When i see prestiges 0 fighting like demons cause they spam lights and riptide ( and sometimes beat me, wich was ""impossible"" before the rework), there is somthing wrong.
He feels very smooth and fun to play compared to before but the tracking/distance/speed of riptide is too good.
Like the previous comments i didn't find any use of the finisher dodge neither..
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The new orochi buff especialy pointing towards the "storm rush" buff, has turned orochi from a high skill high reward champion. Who had the abilety to outskill your opponents into an brainless light attack shaman looking cancer. The new "storm rush" has as mutch indikation as if you blinked when trying to parry a peackeeper zone attack. Raider who thrives on knowing what your opponents next attack is gets thrown under the bus when the unprediktabilety of the new orochi came out, the light attack follow-ups from the first light attack are too fast too parry even with 20ping (with is my awarage game ping). I am a raider main and even playing a fast caracter like berserker i can only win a match if i abuse berserker's hyper armore unblocable top heavy.
Making an assasin who is good thanks too his fast light's and fast heavy into guard breaks unpredictable is straight up broken. Orochi was already an top tier caracter and with this new buff, super fast "riptide strike" and light attacks that was alredy difficult to "predikt parry". The old orochi could easely defeat all other champions if you knew the champion's kit and what possebileties they had. Knowing the champions fastest attack is the easiest way to get an edg over them. but this new orochi has to many fast attacks with too little indikation time. Playing orochi is frustrating and if the player are the slightest bit "good" they will just turtle and light attack whenever they get the oppertunity to do so.
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"The old orochi could easely defeat all other champions if you knew the champion's kit and what possebileties they had" To me the orochi wasn't a top tier character at all, he needed fastest techniques or better oppeners. Apart from that i totally agree with you, he was a "high skill high reward hero" and now he offers nothing more than a brainless playstyle. He lost everything that made him interesting. I loved my orochi but i m not going to play this broken *** anymore. And like the shaman or the centurion at their time, all the cancerous teens will play him. Since yesterday, 8 times on 10, people pick orochi, cause you know.. winning is more important than having fun!
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I posted this in another thread but it's very relevant to this thread so I'll put it here too
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my wish list for tweaks
1. add old riptide PLEASE
2. change storm rush input back to the pre-Orochi (and show the attack indicators sooner for your opponent)
3. slow down the lights!
everything else is honestly pretty dope (love the new chains) and thanks for the rochi love!
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Please don't nerf the Orochi. Give the players time to get used to him. Just give combat tips for those who struggle against him just like with the Aramusha. Come on people, we have to deal with the likes of the Centurion and Shaman.
On a side note, I'm looking forward to the Valkerie rework. There are a plague of Orochi players now since the rework and wonder if giving Val the same treatment would have the same effect? Can't wait.
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Cant believe people are crying over his side lights, cause u know u are all okay with super feint machine with hyper armor zerker but orochi is a problem. If they nerf speed of lights then every second or if not first light will be parried just like they did before. There are a lot of players in this game that have no problem parring lights, orochi doesn't have all gard and UBs like aramusha. Give it couple weeks and watch people cry that orochi is trash and gets punished too hard. He is fine right now, definitely a noob stomper. If u think storm rush needs to be seen earlier then u need to buff its dmg to 25 from 17 cause its dumb to get punished after parry with lights that most of them do minimum 20 dmg if not more on some character.
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