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    Originally Posted by KitingFatKidsEZ Go to original post
    You cant use it as option select because of berserkers in kit "parry light attack follow up". If you parry a light with serkers zone you automatically use a light without any further input.

    The move is a guaranteed parry on block because its a multihit you cant feint --> block --> parry the last hit. Really easy.

    If you use backwards zone instead so it doesnt get parried on multihit you do about as much damage as a blocked heavy.

    Its pretty awful.

    I for one am not surprised Berserker is up there in the top, he's insane now. That hyper armor on everything is really, really good, and his feint game is superb.

    You can go for a zone after a parry, but you need to wait for the window of the light to end. It's difficult, but I've seen people do it.
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    Originally Posted by Tyrjo Go to original post
    I for one am not surprised Berserker is up there in the top, he's insane now. That hyper armor on everything is really, really good, and his feint game is superb.

    You can go for a zone after a parry, but you need to wait for the window of the light to end. It's difficult, but I've seen people do it.
    I think you misunderstood me quite a bit :/

    I am not surprised that berserker is above 50% winrate, i think most people including myself about 2 weeks ago would have expected him to be higher up.

    You cant use serk zone as option select reliably (option select = input the zone instead of a parry when you would usually try to parry) because if you do that to parry a light attack berserker will immediately use a light attack as punish instead of getting a heavy that every other chararcter gets off a succesfull zone option select light parry.

    I didnt talk about zone as heavy parry punish at all.
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    Originally Posted by KitingFatKidsEZ Go to original post
    I think you misunderstood me quite a bit :/

    I am not surprised that berserker is above 50% winrate, i think most people including myself about 2 weeks ago would have expected him to be higher up.

    You cant use serk zone as option select reliably (option select = input the zone instead of a parry when you would usually try to parry) because if you do that to parry a light attack berserker will immediately use a light attack as punish instead of getting a heavy that every other chararcter gets off a succesfull zone option select light parry.

    I didnt talk about zone as heavy parry punish at all.
    Lol, then learn when to zone option. Duh
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    Now who dare saying Valk don't need love ^^ ))
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    Originally Posted by alustar24 Go to original post
    Lol, then learn when to zone option. Duh
    The whole point of an option select is that it beats multiple things at the same time

    No worries though...

    Since you are the commited stupid forum troll i dont expect you to grasp basic concepts of fighting games.
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    Originally Posted by KitingFatKidsEZ Go to original post
    The whole point of an option select is that it beats multiple things at the same time

    No worries though...

    Since you are the commited stupid forum troll i dont expect you to grasp basic concepts of fighting games.
    I can't even begin to describe how idiotic that statement is. Mostly because the option select is an unintended mechanic to begin with.
    I also love how you call me a troll like it's supposed to hurt my feelings! XD you obviously don't have any clue.
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    Originally Posted by Tyrjo Go to original post

    Well that's interesting. I expected Zerker to be 3rd and Kensei 4th. The almighty Conq outpacing the pre-damage nerf PK is impressive but not completely unexpected. Aramusha is very surprising that he's hanging in there. My guess is because he can stun lock assassins. How is Centurion hanging in there above Gladiator though?

    Are there any developer notes that come with this?
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    Originally Posted by Vakris_One Go to original post
    Are there any developer notes that come with this?
    Yes. On Tuesday they will release the whole blog post. This was just a teaser from the Warriors den.
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    I'm pretty surprised by some of these. This is why you shouldn't take the tier list too seriously. The tier list doesn't agree with the actual data.
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    Originally Posted by Meanpie13 Go to original post
    I'm pretty surprised by some of these. This is why you shouldn't take the tier list too seriously. The tier list doesn't agree with the actual data.
    They question should then be: Do we trust the evidence we have, or do we go with what we feel is right?
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