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I dont understand what the hell the devs are thinking with this ******ed POS character?!
She can continously use that jump attack to regenerate her HP and her GB throws are 50 meters too? Not to mention her tracking is another 50 meters as well.
This POS character should never have been introduced in this game, it should be deleted.
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Ok, some true Infos on Shaman, not your biased nonsense:Originally Posted by DarkManChe Go to original post
- Shaman only regenerates (very small) HP if you are bleeding and she hits you. Do apply bleed she has to do a Deflect on you or work very hard to get it...
- Jump Attack can be dodge / parried
- GB throw is mediocre, it is not comparable to Warlord GB throw, Raider Stampede or Lawbringer Impale. Yes, with the jump followup you will be pushed pretty far. Still, nothing compared to the guys I mentioned.
- Tracking does not have any "distance" check. Tracking only works on startup of any move, if you get hit you dodged too early. Fact.
- You have problems with a Character, so it should be deleted? Sounds pretty childish.
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- very hard is a gross overstatement. She can softfeint almost every heavy attack into a bleed stab, which are incredibly fast too... So applying bleed is really easy.Originally Posted by Charmzzz Go to original post
- CAN doesn't mean it isn't very very hard to do, because of how fast it comes out and on any direction too... should only come on top IMO.
- mediocre, are you kidding? You compared her to two very heavy characters, of course it's going to be lower than those. It's WAY out of control for an assassin type character. MUST be nerfed, no doubt about it.
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- a LOT of people have problems with her. She does need attention.
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Ah who would have thought, the assassin lover obviously had to show up.Originally Posted by Charmzzz Go to original post
- I dont care how much HP she regenerates (which is alot btw), but what is this anyway? Why is there an attack that regenerates ones HP in this game? All other characters have a feat to do that and this one can spam this attack over and over smh.
- Jump attack can indeed be dodged lol, who knew right? That's not the problem though, the problem is you can only dodge it if you see her dashing backwards, if she is just about to move forward and you press space there's a half second delay and you wont be able to dodge, but since you dont play anything other than your fast PK I guess you are clueless in that regard.
- GB throw is mediocre, are you insane? Raiders stampede and LB impale are not GB throws, they are attacks (even though Raider can GB stampede, that doesnt count) and Shamans throw is stronger than both of those characters.
- Tracking attacks on ALL characters are too far, should be reduced. Tired of seeing these characters fly 50 meters and still hit you. It doesnt have anything to do with dodge because even if you do dodge/roll you will get hit by Kensei, Shaman and PK again if you try to run. Fact.
- I along with the rest of the community have a problem with this POS character and I guarantee you over 50% of the community would vote for a delete of this character if Ubisoft ever did a poll. So yea, sounds pretty childish aye?
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Aye, does sound childish. I get it though, reminds me of my complaints against the Aramusha.
You admit that if you dodge too early you get hit by the Shaman (among others)... well, come on man, that's on you obviously.
The Shaman barely heals from her bleed sponging, and the bite has to be done immediately for any worthwhile gain.
I'm actually with you on the tracking, though for different reasons. I dont like tracking in videogame in general, fighting games especially. You either do the work to score the hit or you miss. The automatic-hits are rampant in this game and I hate it.
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I can beat Shamans on my Warden (not playing Assassins only...). This Thread is almost the same as the "Gladiator OP - no effort to win" from someone else. What did I do? I played about 10 Duels vs him on Gladiator. He won 2 Rounds in all those Matches, although he said that Gladiator Zone is so OP that he wins 90% of his Duels...
- Predator's Mercy heals for 20 HP, hits are what, 3 HP per hit heal? Could be 10% or something like that, so even less on Light hits...
- Top Dodge Heavy attacks are 700,600 and 500ms depending on the attack stance. If you cannot react on those attacks, well, every other 500ms attack is impossible to block for you, too?
- GB throw is really mediocre. Followed up by Predator's Hunger it becomes a "good" throw. Still not the best in game.
- Tracking is fine, you just have to time your dodge. If you have problems with Tracking, how about Highlander Caber Toss which is probably the hardest move to dodge and guarantees a Heavy?
- I can reliably dodge all your mentioned "Tracking" dodge-attacks. If you dodge too early, your fault. There are some "undodgeable" moves like Zerker dodge-side-attack, but those you mentioned are not.
So you assume that 50% of the community have a problem with Shaman. Evidence? Nah, only a biased nonsense argument. Shaman is really not S-Tier, never was. Have a look what Zerker and Conq can do atm...
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It's a really fun fight on my Lawbringer vs Shamans who actually know what they are doing. I don't see the problem there. If you duel someone and its freaking neck and neck rounds that isnt unbalanced that's a RUSH!!! Sure if you mess up and take punishment it sucks, but just because you got a good chunk of health taken away doesn't mean forget everything you know about defense and curl up into the fetal position and load up the forums to give shamans a dressing down.
All in all..
If you put as much time and effort into working on winning as you do into thinking about losing, You'd already have a champion's heart.
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Shaman can be dealt with rather easily by practicing against her mix ups and timings. I know this is by far a completely foreign concept to players like yourself, who would much rather whine on the forums about whatever it is that upset them, rather than learn why you fell victim in the first place.
Your arguments are wildly off base, for starters, shaman CANNOT repeatedly use predators mercy. She can only use it once, then the bleed that enablea her blood trance is consumed. Secondly her throw distance has been nerfed, so really you are just regurgitating complaints that are months old at best. Maybe instead of complaining, you could ask for help from someone who runs shaman frequently? Wait, never mind, that would imply your game play needs assistance, and I forgot I'm talking to the highest ranked MMR player that's won every duel/tourney he's ever been in since for honor was released 7 years ago. XD
