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[Devonax]

I have been playing GRW since open beta and have noticed problems from the start. Now there are some problems that have been fixed in previous updates but there are also problems that are still here even after a YEAR the game has been released. Ubisoft, PLEASE stop making stuff for Ghost War and first focus on fixing the problems in the Main game. Not everyone is playing PVP all the time, most of us who bought the game, bought it because of the campaign not PVP.

I'll try to list as many issues that the main game has since day one. Please Ignore any spelling mistakes I made in the process of writing this.

- TIER ONE MODE
this seems to be plastered on without any real investigation on how it works with systems already in the game. From tier 20 and below the game becomes almost unplayable. The enemy spots you in 1 second and they gun you down in the next second. Even if you know (tagged) that an SINGLE enemy is coming around a corner they will spot and shoot you before you can even react. The guys with the double uzi are the ones that need a SERIOUS nerf to their accuracy and damage.

Your team (with EVERY upgrade in the skill tree) does nowhere near de damage, or have the same accuracy as the enemies have in tier 20 and below, this is just NOT right. I understand that Tier One mode has been added for more challenge but this stuff is getting rediculous. Now some might say that it's all about stealth but in 50% of the missions this is not possible. You have location defense missions that start out loud, you have radio missions that start out loud, you have chase missions that start out loud and with tier 20 and below these missions are infuriating to say the least. They see you faster, shoot you GODLY fast and accurate that no human being could pull off IRL.

I believe that tier one mode needs a second look. Nerf the enemies and buff your team's effectiveness and increase the Tier point gain aswell because leveling after tier 20 is incredibly and insanely slow.


- TEAM AI
Oh my god I'm trying so hard right now to stay calm. The intelligence of your team AI is worse then a stack of bricks. They take forever to come and revive you and revivng itself takes forever aswell even with all the skill points. They take a long time to take down 2 -3 enemies (that seems to ALWAYS only have eyes for you and ignore your team) and it results in you as the player of getting shot at.

Doing those "breach" missions where you have to blow the door and get to the server in a fixed amount of time is a hell to play. Your team does not go inside even if you give them the command to do so (having the "move there" field inside the building) and running in first is getting you killed quicker then you can say "I'm inside".

Sometimes they don't even move. I have had multiple moments where one of my team just refused to move at all, just standing near a rock, car or helicopter and no matter how many times you give the order to "move there" or "rally on me" they just don't move or fight along side you.

Then there are times where you make an ambush for a supply truck and you plan everything perfectly. you block the road, you set up your team on a higher position and you stop the truck with an EMP drone. You start firing on the escort cars and your team?? well they do nothing. you HAVE to order them to fire which is infuriating to do because of the clunky way you give orders (command wheel + Scrolling or F1 - F4). So you have to juggle stating alive and commanding your team at the same time.

They also mess up your stealthy operations. They are spotted and with missions you are now allowed to be spotted, they fail your mission. Same goes for air drops. If you want to air drop in a base and you landed perfectly and stealthy on a roof inside the camp then your team is just spawned RIGHT SMACK IN THE MIDDLE of the F-ing base. and they just walk casually to your possition giving no F's about the enemy that are there. They need to be 100% invisible to the enemy UNLESS they fired their weapon because they are too stupid to go the stealthy path and bypass enemies around them.

Then there is the last thing about team AI... Why the hell are they shooting at the supply truck. No matter where you place them for some reason they just like to shoot the supply truck. They even say " the supply truck is taking too much damage" while THEY are the ****ers who shoot at it. Please Ubisoft fix their AI and make them quicker, more responsive and more usable. If that is so much to ask then give us a optional choice of removing them and change the squad skill tree in something that are perfect for lone wolves. How they are now is just maddening and they are worthless other then the stealthy sync shots.


- TIER ONE REWARDS
what is the point of going through tier one mode and collecting all the rewards when the best rewards are given at the end of the freakn game? When you finally unlock the Bad News or certain weapons skins or cosmetic items the game is over and you have grind the **** out of all the missions to finally get to the game, for nothing. It would be a different story if all the rewards are account bound and not characer locked. that way when you start a new character you atleast can you the weapons that you have EARNED. They are useless if you give them at the end of the game when all missions are already done multiple times.


- SAM LAUNCHERS
Those SAM launchers are still annoying AF. You have to do those missions to extract someone or bring those suplly helicopters or planes and they get shot out of the sky. Even if you take all the time to destory all the SAM launchers in the area they are back up before you even reach the plane/chopper. What is the point of that?? You need to either fly 900+ meters in the air so they don't spawn or you need to scratch off the paint of your bird with the roads and rocks so they dont target you!

This could EASILY be fixed in one of 2 ways:
* make the SAM launchers (that are destroyed) respawn when you leave the PROVENCE, but as long as you are in the same provence they stay destroyed.
or
* Add a new option/skill to helicopters and planes where you can deploy flares to avoid getting hit by the rockets. This would then have a skill based effect where the player needs to learn and train when to deploy them. Too late and the explosion radius will still effect you, too soon and the rockets will bypass the burned out flares and go straight towards you.

How the SAM launchers are now are just way too annoying for me to consider doing those suplly missions where SAM launchers are in the area.


- NO TIER POINTS FOR VEHICLE KILLS
If you are in Tier One Mode and you shoot down a helicopter or car with your weapon you do NOT get ANY experience or tier points whatsoever. It doesn't matter if you use snipers, Assault rifles, grenade launchers etc. if you explode the vehicle with enemies inside you dont get anything for your perfect executed efforts. Why is that? Tiers points are rewarded already extremely slow and its a real annoying grind to get down the tier mode from 20 and below so why don;t we get tier points for vehicle destruction. Last I checked there are 4 people in those choppers and cars and they died because of me, so I should be getting the exp for it.

Why do I have to wait till the car stops and the people exit the vehicle for me to get the exp for the kills (helicopter stay in the air so you never get exp from them)?


So, Ubisoft.. These are some of the most annoying problems and bugs the game has SINCE DAY ONE and has never been fixed. I ask you again to PLEASE stop adding new stuff to PVP and first focus on fixing your main game. make it more streamlined and more enjoyable to play before you are adding new stuff to other parts of the game. I know that pvp is where the money is now for you guys but common, you can;t just abandon the main game without fixing it and expect us to be fine with it while you create and sell new DLC for PVP.

Please Ubisoft.. Fix and adjust the main game so that we Campaign players can enjoy the game just as much as the PVP-ers can in Ghost War. We deserve the same treatment.

PS. If you are going to work on the main game and fix these issues then maybe, just maybe you can remove those useless bars from the weapon stat and give us something we can actually use and rely on.


I hope other people on this forum do agree with me. please let me (and most importantly Ubisoft) know what you want to have fixed in the game. This post is not about new features but about fixing or re-evaluating how things work now to this date.

[UbiInsulin]

Thanks for letting us know the issues that are most important to you, Devonax. I think nearly all of these are things that we've brought to the attention of the team previously. The team will likely not be stopping their support of Ghost War because of these concerns, but they'll continue supporting both the PvE campaign and Ghost War while we keep them up-to-date on the community's feedback.

[KmarkoPL]

Thanks for letting us know the issues that are most important to you, Devonax. I think nearly all of these are things that we've brought to the attention of the team previously. The team will likely not be stopping their support of Ghost War because of these concerns, but they'll continue supporting both the PvE campaign and Ghost War while we keep them up-to-date on the community's feedback.

Really support PVE ?!
Just be for end of the 2017, one of you been promising some thing big for PVE, and what ? Where is it ?!
Your words means nothing !
Stop giving empty promises !!

[Devonax]

"The team will likely not be stopping their support of Ghost War because of these concerns, but they'll continue supporting both the PvE campaign and Ghost War while we keep them up-to-date on the community's feedback."

I understand that they will not be stopping support for Ghost War because that is where the money is according to Ubisoft and I get that, but the Main game (campaign) is NOT getting the same attention as Ghost War by a mile. When something was bugged in ghost war it got fixed in a week. When something was overpowered or underpowered it got fixed in a week. When people complained about certain systems or classes it was changed in the next patch. This is NOT the case for the main game and that's why I made this thread.

People have asked Ubisoft to give us a customizable LVOA-C, where is it?
People have asked to fix the Sniper bug where sometimes your sniper does not do damage, where is the fix?
People have asked to give us a way to destroy fences without vehicles or exsplosives, where is it?
People have been asking to improve the Team AI or give us an option to remove them, where is it?
People have been asking to give us the option to change the weapons of our team, where is it?
People have been asking for smoke/gas grenades since the first patch, where is it?
People have REPEATEDLY made threads about not getting exp/tier points for certain actions, where is that fix?

these are just a few things that are stuff people asked for that can improve the game for everyone. It's all optional stuff so people that don't want to use it do not have too (some things just need to be fixed because they are bugs).

there are so many things that still needs fixing and these problems are not new or unknown but for some reason they are not getting fixed, while in Ghost war things get changed or fixed almost immediatly. Another example is the ingame store. You can buy all the weapons (with some included attachments) but then you do not have all the attachments. You can buy all the attachments but then all the packs with weapons are not worth their full price because they include some attachments. Why not just have 1 pack for all attachments and 1 pack for all weapons? It would clean up the store and makes it far more likely that people will buy both packages at a fair price.

Now I do want to say that Ubisoft has listened to SOME of our requests like having a knife takedown and having the DLC weapons in the main game and that really showed us that Ubisoft does have it in them to listen to the community but it's not enough to just cherry pick some stuff just to "keep us happy". There is no reason to shift all focus on Ghost War alone. You sold (and are still selling) the main game aswell and thus you should still fix bugs and improve the things that your CUSTOMERS find annoying/buggy/unfair.

Team AI, even with micromanagment, was not designed with Tier Mode in mind and that is VERY obvious. This makes them pretty good in normal gameplay but in Tier Mode they are worthless because they do not have the reaction time, damage or accuracy that the godlike enemies have. Sometimes they just stand there playing with their lil john while I give them an order and the enemy is right in front of them and has only eyes for me! that sh*t ain't right.

[RomaLeon91]

I seriously agree.

For the past few months I have been playing PVP mainly, and now I'm at P4 and I thought I have made visual improvement on my aiming and spotting and reflexes in general.
Now when I get bored I replay a few missions in the main game using my Tier 14 character, and I finally realized how good shooters are these Santa Blanca and Unidad soldiers. They are definately more deadly than 99% of the P10 players I've met in PVP. Their aim at mid to long range is outstanding.
And it's weird too. From my observation, the deadliness ranks as below:
Dual-wiedling Mac-10 dude
Heavy machine-gunman
Average assault-rifleman
Snipers
Pathfinders in Fallen Ghost who have camo from Future Soldier(what the hell)
This is rediculous. In my opinion, snipers and pathfinders should be much more devastating, and the Mac-10 guys shouldn't pose any threat unless in real close quarters. Especially the pathfinders, their equipment is no doubt the most expensive and they tend to sit by a river fishing. They might not be actually fishing but their stance really look like it.
Another thing I'm not happy about is the almost infinite and immediate reinforcement of Unidad.

What I'm trying to say is that unlike in AC Origins, where you should stay stealthy but nonetheless have the option of defeating your enemy head-on, in GR Wildlands, 80% of the time you can't do that. Maybe I'm a bad player but still, Ubisoft would you please make some adjustments?

[GiveMeTactical]

Lots of money to be made in PvP, not so much in PvE anymore... do the math.

Being said that, continue complaining and/or giving feedback if that makes you feel better or helps you stay calm as well as help you enjoy your playthrough!

[WarCannon90]

I do second the dual mac 10 dude who has ended up being the bane of my existence in tier mode. The funny thing is all the stuff suggested has been asked for, they have zero interest in doing any of it so it seems. There is plenty of money to be made still via the campaign and that is what players are asking for, more content and some fixes. I mean all the threads asking for new weapons like the AK74 or the M60 or Bi pods for the LMGs, more tactical style gear. They can make these and just slap them in the store, but then look at the weapons like the TAC-50 it is just a reskin of the HTI they never even changed the icon. At this point giving them a suggestion will fall on deaf ears with the basic response of appeasement. The only thing anyone can do iis pretty much ride it out like a train from hell and hope the next game will be better, i am sorry but i laugh almost every time i see the post we have forwarded this to the devs. It is like that suggestion box that doesn't matter lol, but who knows maybe it will change this time around but meh who knows. Them adding the fallen ghost weapons was easy since they are already modeled and in the game, would nit mind some new weapons myself tho... but heck what do i know.

[RomaLeon91]

I do second the dual mac 10 dude who has ended up being the bane of my existence in tier mode. The funny thing is all the stuff suggested has been asked for, they have zero interest in doing any of it so it seems. There is plenty of money to be made still via the campaign and that is what players are asking for, more content and some fixes. I mean all the threads asking for new weapons like the AK74 or the M60 or Bi pods for the LMGs, more tactical style gear. They can make these and just slap them in the store, but then look at the weapons like the TAC-50 it is just a reskin of the HTI they never even changed the icon. At this point giving them a suggestion will fall on deaf ears with the basic response of appeasement. The only thing anyone can do iis pretty much ride it out like a train from hell and hope the next game will be better, i am sorry but i laugh almost every time i see the post we have forwarded this to the devs. It is like that suggestion box that doesn't matter lol, but who knows maybe it will change this time around but meh who knows. Them adding the fallen ghost weapons was easy since they are already modeled and in the game, would nit mind some new weapons myself tho... but heck what do i know.

Still a lot of money to be made in the PVE? Come on now that's just wishful thinking.
If they were to charge for every update, I believe ubisoft would listen to these complaints.