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I was playen in the QMB, and I have been wondering why it can out climb and out run the P-38J, P-38L, and P-51D at all altitudes.
I found that the P-47 and P-38Late are able to catch it.
Just curiouse lol, and I was wondering if that was historical.
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I was playen in the QMB, and I have been wondering why it can out climb and out run the P-38J, P-38L, and P-51D at all altitudes.
I found that the P-47 and P-38Late are able to catch it.
Just curiouse lol, and I was wondering if that was historical.
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The G-10 aught to be comnpetitive with real life J and L lightnings up to 7000 meters but not the Mustang in terms of climb and speed.
The Mustang could out speed them at just about all altitudes and outclimb above 20,000 in real life....
Now in this sim...the AI are exploiting the prop pitch cheat...at least that is what I hypothesize because they can outclimb and outdive everything...even Mustangs and Jugs up to 30K and beyond...a well documented issue.
In addition, the J and L lightning are slow at altitude by a good margin and the J model in particular is very bad off in climb....from what I've read, but not confirmed, the L late is actually very close to 1600 hp Lightning values...what it should be. It's been difficult to piece together, but the P-38L-1LO seems to be the model rated to 1600 hp, introduced in June 1944 and the -5LO and previously manufactured 1LO's were given the 1750hp rating in October of 44...I'm speculating based on a couple of clues but that is how I think it went.
Bottom line, G-10 is second best peformer in game next to K. The G6A/S is better at lower altitudes but peaks out lower than K and G-10. The G-14 is the dog of the late war group...although not much of a dog at all.
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It cannot outrun P51, not down low for sure, and I suppose also not up high. On the deck P51 is third fastest prop in the sim, after Mustang MkIII and Dora 9.
Bf109 was one of best climbing fighters in WW2, however due to superb two speed two stage supercharger equipped merlin P51 should outrun and outclimb it with ease up high. You gave me some ideas to test out!
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"Now in this sim...the AI are exploiting the prop pitch cheat...at least that is what I hypothesize because they can outclimb and outdive everything...even Mustangs and Jugs up to 30K and beyond...a well documented issue"
That may very well expain it. In version 4, It didn't seem too bad though. It's in version 4.01m and 4.02m that I have noticed this.
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I had no problem catching the G-10 up high, 7km altitude +, while using the P-47D-27.
I haven't ran any test's with human controlled opponents though.
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g10 was better than the g14, g14 just a rush job on making a g6 alcholholic, g10 had abit more refinement.
p38 is too slow up high, not enuff climb
p51 is decently modeled in terms of speed and climb
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Keep your speed up, Maple Tiger. The P-51 high speed climb can leave the G-10 in the dust online and offline, providing that you DON'T start the climb when you're slow and he's gaining.
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The G-10 was an attempt to standardize late-war 109 production, and was probably the best performing 109G. It incorportated a lot of the modifications that had gone into earlier high performance sub-types in order to make the 109 competitive with the new Allied types that were seeing service (Sptfire XIV, Mustang III, P-51D, P-47 with paddle prop). Refined cowlings, revised canopy, better radio equipment and in later production an enlarged tail and longer tail wheel leg. The G-10 has the DB650DM with MW-50 boost and produced about 1800 hp at 1.75 ata. Late versions also got the 2000hp DB605DC/ASC, with 1.98 ata approved around
It didn't start to enter production until October 1944, so is pretty much a very late 1944-early 1945 bird.
Climb sould be really good as it has a lot of power and better aerodynamics than a G6. Performance at altitude is pretty sparkling; approx 430 mph (685 km) at 7000m.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by NextBarbaPapa:
On the deck P51 is third fastest prop in the sim, after Mustang MkIII and Dora 9.
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Only if you think about west. "In the sim" its: Mustang Mk.III, La-7/La-7 3xB20, D9, P-51. In terms of acceleration La-7 is the best among those by far.