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Back in December 2017 I got For Honor for Christmas, and I've been pretty much playing it almost non-stop, only getting off when I have work the next day or to go play something else. For the most part, it's by far my favorite game on the PS4, I'm actually rather decent at it and for once I can hold my own unlike other games I've played. It's great. However there are issues here and there, sometimes the connection is bad, and other times I'll encounter a turtle or three but it's mostly good. However there is only glaring issue I've noticed.
The factions are severely unbalanced. From the looks of it there are way more Vikings than Samurai and Knights, and this causes a bit of inflation and also allows them to win territories a lot faster than the other teams.
There is another issue with this, and thats that players are grouped with players from all teams during a battle. You might be a knight and suddenly you're fighting with two vikings and a samurai, and maybe the entire enemy team is all knight players. If you win the battle, you'll get bonus soldiers for winning but so will the players from the enemy factions.
However, if the enemy team wins, since they're all knights, they'll get bonus soldiers. This will only really work for a while though, and eventually the faction with the most players will likely win again. I feel there are a few ways that this can be fixed and would like to here other ways this can be fixed. I'll go over a few ideas I have.
The First Idea is the most preferable- You only get teamed up with players from your faction and fight players from the other factions. This would prevent knight players from fighting knight players and samurai players from fighting samurai. This would allow for players to only fight with their faction members and when they'd win a fight it wouldn't benefit the other factions like how it currently does. However players who have friends on other factions would be forced to leave one if they wanted to play with there friend which would be annoying for some people. But in the end this would be better since this way when a Knight player wins, all of his teammates would be knights rather that players from the other factions.
This Second Idea borrows from the first one, but is a bit severe- Players can only team up with people from their faction and play heroes from their faction. The advantage to this would be that each faction has unique heroes to choose from and it would actually be important which one you chose. More important than some dumb shape confirming what faction you chose. However, this would be annoying for lots of people since some people use heroes from a different faction. Despite being a loyal Knights player, I use Kensei quite a bit (I'm garbage I know.) But an advantage this would provide is that because heroes are faction locked players may join another faction and balance out the player counts more just because they like a hero, and also so they could play with their friend.
Another idea is to just force whatever team currently has the highest player count to donate about 50% or 25% of it's players to the other two factions. However everything else remains the same. This would only balance player-count and not the war itself.
Anyway does anyone have any ideas how the whole "faction war" could be fixed, if any? Or am I just all alone on this?
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Firstly, Samurai actually have the most members in their faction, with Vikings having the least amount of players with knights obviously been in the middle. Vikings are as strong as the are right now for a few reasons, the main one been that we get more troops on average because we have less players in our faction. Couple that with the fact that on average Vikings win more matches and play better, we get even more of a bonus. This is what needs to be fixed to have the faction war balanced.
Instead of forcing players to choose a medium faction if they wanna play with their friends, they need to add a game mode that is solely focused on the faction war and draws on only Vikings fighting against other factions. I do not want to change from my faction to play with a friend just because they are a Knight, and vice versa.
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At least it would give the other teams a better chance of winning. I'm sick and tired of seeing those scummy Viking players win everything.Originally Posted by SHRiIVIP Go to original post
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There are several things wrong with that sentence, mainly, "Vikings" and "Won 2 seasons in a row."Originally Posted by ArchDukeInstinct Go to original post
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If the other two didn't pour xx million assets into one square most of every round then they would have a chance of making that happen. Instead they fight over one square and the vikings come from the North more or less unchecked across many of the territories.Originally Posted by AnimeFreakIncs Go to original post
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I mainly want the faction a player chooses to mean something. Whether thats you can only play with your factions respective heroes, or other players on your faction (in a similar case to Elder Scrolls Online.)Originally Posted by ChampionRuby50g Go to original post
However, I like your idea a lot. I'd definitely like it if there was some sort of "competitive" or other screen or something dedicated to the faction war, but that'd defeat the purpose of the game. (In my eyes.) As for the Vikings having the least amount of players, that's not the way it seems on the PS4, (At least to me.) I almost never see Samurai players, and whenever I do see a Viking, they usually just gank or throw me into a corner and spam that the entire time. I've only seen a total of 23 players on the Vikings team I'd call skilled. (No offense to you, of course.) As for Samurai players I've really only met ones who are just okay at the game. (They still gank though.) As for knights majority I've seen have skill but get salty fast and gank if they die even once.
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This is what I've been saying, and Ubi has yet to address it. Vikings get a population bonus, which has been incorporated since launch as a means to prevent the larger two factions from steamrolling them too fast, but due to the way the game has been over the last year most of the Samurai players have either stopped playing or joined the Vikings. Hence why neither the Knights or Samurai can keep the Vikings in check. We don't have the man power to keep up with the more active Vikings, and the Knights care more about a volcano than their entire kingdom.
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It will be almost impossible to balance though. They give a bonus to the Viking players because of their low population- this makes sense, it's an act of balance.
However, the Vikings then play the hell out of the game and "abuse" that bonus. The problem is that it is severely risky to lower the bonus they get because what if all of a sudden there is a drop off in viking players and they get steamrolled?
I dont think the faction war can actually be fixed at this point. All I've come to care about is having those mills and forge for extra loot and xp. This is why I'm changing from Samurai to Viking during this off season... unless they come out with big changes that convince me otherwise.
