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  1. #21
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    Originally Posted by mckrackin5324 Go to original post
    Appeals are for players who may have been banned wrongly.
    They refuse Appeals. And give u no chance to prove anything.

    Originally Posted by mckrackin5324 Go to original post
    and their names put in chat globally.
    lililiilililililililililili ?

    Originally Posted by mckrackin5324 Go to original post
    100% headshot kills in a round? Banned
    90% accuracy in a round? Banned
    If i join to match and make one single shoot which hit in head and kill is both 100% and i should be banned? Why i did only single shoot during whole match doesn't matter.
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    Originally Posted by mckrackin5324 Go to original post
    I hope they get it through their heads for the Division 2 that ban waves don't work.
    The only way to control cheaters is to ban them when they cheat. That moment. Not a month later. Not two months later. Not after a long investigation.

    You cheat,you're banned.
    Appeals are for players who may have been banned wrongly.

    Something like Fairfight or Punkbuster.

    100% headshot kills in a round? Banned
    90% accuracy in a round? Banned
    Rate of fire mechanically perfect? Banned

    Cheaters should be banned instantly and their names put in chat globally.
    This is simply the standard for online PvP games.
    Well Said. Damn, this was a great response!!!
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    Originally Posted by Solidus... Go to original post
    They refuse Appeals. And give u no chance to prove anything.



    lililiilililililililililili ?



    If i join to match and make one single shoot which hit in head and kill is both 100% and i should be banned? Why i did only single shoot during whole match doesn't matter.
    A new appeal program would go with the new robust anti cheat.

    What the name is doesn't matter. Putting names of cheaters in chat is not for name and shame. It is to show players that cheaters are being banned. Show them that cheating has consequences.

    Fairfight and Punkbuster recognize it when a player only shoots a few times. I had 800% accuracy with the Phantom Bow in BF4 for a long time because I only fired it one time and got 8 players with an area of effect arrow. I wasn't banned. The software knows the difference in a one time use and actual inflated accuracy.
    My accuracy is still over 400% to this day. Different weapon types have different flags. High accuracy with single shot snipers and area of effect weapons is factored in.
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    Massive has been pushing toxic behaviour from day one, why would you think they would change it at the final throws of the games life?
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    Originally Posted by mckrackin5324 Go to original post

    Fairfight and Punkbuster recognize it when a player only shoots a few times. I had 800% accuracy with the Phantom Bow in BF4 for a long time because I only fired it one time and got 8 players with an area of effect arrow. I wasn't banned. The software knows the difference in a one time use and actual inflated accuracy.
    My accuracy is still over 400% to this day. Different weapon types have different flags. High accuracy with single shot snipers and area of effect weapons is factored in.
    I don't know about Fairfight and Punkbuster, but yea i remember auto admins in BF, 3 dudes line up and i take them down in one small burst in head, less than 2 seconds, and auto ban.
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    Originally Posted by mckrackin5324 Go to original post
    I hope they get it through their heads for the Division 2 that ban waves don't work.
    100% headshot kills in a round? Banned
    90% accuracy in a round? Banned
    Rate of fire mechanically perfect? Banned

    Cheaters should be banned instantly and their names put in chat globally.
    This is simply the standard for online PvP games.
    100% headshot kills are not bannable anywhere.
    Specially if one is playing with sniper.

    Thought i have to admit such a person is extremly GOOD at hitting whatever he wishes to.
    But than there are those SUPER good doom players and so on.
    Simply good stats are NOT banable.

    Thought checking game files and live memory for such a player doesnt hurt...
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    Originally Posted by Solidus... Go to original post
    I don't know about Fairfight and Punkbuster, but yea i remember auto admins in BF, 3 dudes line up and i take them down in one small burst in head, less than 2 seconds, and auto ban.
    Yea, i REALLY dont want such a nonsense in this game.

    Also i dont understand what is it with the cheaters.
    How does everyone know someone is cheating?
    I was playing pvp with no gear. Yea, i got lucky to get super rare exotic weapons - the house, that assault rifle - mdr and other nice things.
    But i got owned, cuase i had NO gear.
    When i got 4 striker pieces, pve missions suddenly went lot easier.
    Now when i get full striker gear (6 pieces), i will also get healing from damage and even more damage.
    With The House maxed out and GOOD talants (healing on critical and another ogod one) i imagine stuff will go down fast.
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    Originally Posted by Solidus... Go to original post
    I don't know about Fairfight and Punkbuster, but yea i remember auto admins in BF, 3 dudes line up and i take them down in one small burst in head, less than 2 seconds, and auto ban.
    But were not talking 2 shots are we....... nor are we talking about a sniper who can 2 shot you out of cover.

    Were talking suspicious scenarios such as an lw m4 or shotgun in full auto mode. Or a single player blasting a team of four with impunity. Downed in 1sec each. While the other player suffers near zero damage and didnt use any meds or healing skills. You know the obvious crap that goes on in all modes of pvp in this game.

    It should not be an issue to show ppls stats on screen of the players that were involved in killing you. If the dev team cant make things like that transparent, then keeping a check of players stats that are in the redzone (cause alarm) should be flagged up for closer inspection.
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    Originally Posted by UbiAmper Go to original post
    If you still have access to them, could you send them to me via PM?

    A ban wave was performed today, and we'll continue to have them. I do appreciate you guys sending me cases as you come across them, too.
    Please tell us TD2 has a significant overhaul of the core netcode to help in this regard! (?)

    We all know TD is nearing the end of its life cycle, so it's crazy for us to expect anything more than ongoing ban waves, but if you want all/most of the players here to follow you over to #2 I think we need to hear about significant strengthening of anti-cheat features.

    It's of course unrealistic to expect any game to be cheat-proof, just as no car can be made theft-proof, but I do think it can be a lot, LOT more robust than it is now.
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    Originally Posted by agentCoats Go to original post
    Were talking suspicious scenarios such as an lw m4 or shotgun in full auto mode.
    About too perfect accuracy let me tell u how such tracking will be failed before it even will be implemented. Join match turn on RPM hack no clip hack shoot about 1000 rounds just in air then go and kill everyone around and at end of the match ur 90% accuracy will not be even a 30%.

    Originally Posted by agentCoats Go to original post
    You know the obvious crap that goes on in all modes of pvp in this game.
    Sorry but no i don't know, l don't play those hamster fight mods. True pvp and challenge is in DZ, at least it was when i was able to kill rogues with half clip. Today i most time can't kill a single rogue with 3 full clips in back lol one of the reasons why i stopped play division, with out a decent group u can't do SH** alone.
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