I'm not saying you are wrong, nor that I'm right. It's taste.
I'm 46 years old, Swedish and I dislike mainstream crap movies/games that one can figure out the ending of after the first 15 minutes of watching/playing.
That didn't happen here. I suspected it, but I didn't really know.
A game is a ride. If one enjoys the ride but hates the ending it will or might have an impact on the final score.
Many people here actually think they played the game for nothing. Wasted hours.
Really?
Are you only playing to see the ending? And that ending has to be a "good guys always win" ending?
Then why not just watch the ending on Youtube and save your money?
I don't get it.
I suspect most of you are Americans and/or around 12 years old.
I loved the ending!
Good Job UBISOFT!
A quote from a thread in Steam community
So, I love all the people talking about "He was right." and all that crap. They are completely ignoring the point. Sure, did the end of the world (as far as we know) come? Yes, but that doesn't matter. Everyone and their mother can sense that the world is building to something, so it is up to us to choose HOW we deal with it when the time comes, and I don't know about you, but I don't want to enter the "end of the world" as part of or even abide a cult that murders, brainwashes and (probably) rapes whoever and perverts the scriptures to fit what they want it to mean.
I think this will probably be my last Far Cry game because the devs seemed to have forgotten that part and only focused on the belief that we were trying to stop the world from ending. I don't know about you, but I knew something like that was out of my control, I was fighting to stop the cult from being a power, that was it. The devs seem to always want to go for the "edgy" ending. If I wanted an "edgy" ending, I would walk outside into the real world.
Well, as a 47 year old American....I personally think your statements started out fine...but ended snide and insulting. I will get to the reasons I didn't like the ending below...but wanted to say that the line about being American or 12 years old is an effort to be a sly insult. You know, only someone of the maturity of a 12 year old or even lower like an American would EVER dislike this ending...or maybe only they would believe that all the effort of playing the game, saving people just to see them all blown up is waste. I can see what you think of Americans....but honestly, If We Americans had to call for help fighting our battles from Europe as many times in History as Europe has needed us to come save them, then I guess I would be resentful too.....
Now as to why I disliked the ending....cause it was a continuation of the railroad story and implied some things that are insulting to Christians and good people in general. First this game was sold as play your way, you can basically do what you want in the world and it will advance the story so play with freedom. Well you are tripping right along(sometimes for real in Bliss) and BAM story cutscene where the player has zero choice, then poof, you are back to doing as you want, BAM back to story railroad, poof back to freedom, then BAM slap you in the face story again....for three chapters and then the final ending... You have zero choice in taking Joseph(why would you when you have 12 people to worry about, plus maybe 3 animals to try and save) and through it all, you are slapped in the face with not everything can be solved by a bullet...and Joseph is chosen of God and right. The ending is forced...how does a mostly dismantled Cult capture 12 people you care about, and NOT let you do what you have done all game in infiltrating and freeing prisoners?? Why do I have to put Joseph in the truck.....he is an Evil man who SHOULD have been left in the dirt(alive or dead at your discretion) and all your effort going into saving your friends(who magically disappear)? When faced with the overwhelming Evil that is Joseph's Cult, how EVER think to stand by and allow it to flourish?? Anyone who knows history can see how this ALWAYS turns out badly....see 1930s Europe and into 1940s. How can you in any way imply that Joseph is actually right and the Chosen of God, when he is about as Evil as historical figure you want to name. Joseph killed his own child, killed or blinded the man in the original video during intro/prologue, directly and indirectly responsible for the deaths of hundreds/thousands, working at drugging/mindcontroling people, branding, scarring, them and stealing from them all in the name of his Chosen Purpose.....which Ubi writers then decided to make him correct and right on. Ubi preaches not everything can be solved with a bullet.....yet I seem to remember the cult throwing a whole bunch at my character, and yet it is MY fault(per Joseph, who was right) that all this happened, and if I had only allowed him to continue his Evil ways, the world would have been fine.
Personally I saw the ending coming from the second time I heard the broadcasts about rising tensions in the "world" and knew the people who would preach to me all game in subtle ways about the evil of using guns wouldn't ignore the chance to "Make A STATEMENT" in the ending by blowing it up. I hoped I was wrong, but nope, they couldn't resist. Do I require a "good" or "Happily Ever After" ending to enjoy a game......No, it sometimes helps to not feel so depressed after a game, but honestly as long as the ending makes sense, and isn't a cliched "bad endings are so cool so we have to have one", then I am fine with it. It is when the writers work so hard to railroad a particular ending in that goes against characters or the likely actions that get on my last nerve....and this one got all over it. Personally, glad you liked the ending, but to me they stank. It is sad when the best ending available is the one in which you don't actually play the game, and Ubi has done that now for 2 FarCrys.....FC4 and FC5 the best endings were if you didn't play the game and took the "hidden" early ending.....makes you wonder if they really want us playing their games, and if they continue they will get their "hidden" wish and we will not buy or play them.
Nice writing there Modmcsupersport!
Yes, you are right that my post started out fine and the ending was just.. low..
I wish I could write this in Swedish.. hah.. Hold on to your hat if you are a patriot..
Well, so, what I mean is: From my perspective (Mine, not all Swedish people or Europeans) Americans seems to love happy endings. 99% of your movies have it, you love to wave flags for nothing, do fireworks and to think that you are the biggest war-nation on earth, which you obviously are not.
Like us, Swedes, also Christians, you are afraid of dying. Asians, Africans, Arabs etc. are not.
Heart and will wins war, not the best tech (Viet*cough*nam)?
So: Happy endings are very American. Chinese, French, Spanish or Swedish movies are much more difficult to know how they end.
And I don't want to know how it ends. 12 year olds do, though.
See my point?
I should have wrote my first post better, I blame alcohol and language
Cheers and I hope I made my point and wasn't rude.
@Sainthadgehog
If you are one of the people that feels that if you want a sad story or an unhappy ending you just need to walk outside your door, you need to move!
Those stupid arguments are for people who live in fear or are poor. Those people don't have internet and can't post crap on forums.
And wtf do you people confuse a game with reality? IT'S a GAME! It should have a twist!
^^ This.Originally Posted by SaintHedgehog Go to original post
To me, it seems like the ending is sending you a certain message, intentionally or not.
And the message is "Sorry, but these murderous torturing kidnapping psychos were right, and you were wrong. All your friends will die and all your efforts have been for nothing because we scripted it like this. Thanks for playing, have fun!".
And there's big, HUGE difference between Far Cry 5 and other Far Cry games, which is VERY important.
There were unexpected endings in previous Far Cry games, where the main antagonist turns out to be "not so bad" and the whole thing not so black and white.
This time, however, the "not black and white" idea just does not work at all. There's no way any sane person would see Joseph and his bunch of psycho scum followers as "not so bad" or "right, just misunderstood" or anything like that. And because of this, the ending is just a huge disappointment.
And besides, exactly HOW anything Joseph does prevents or helps to deal with the coming apocalypse? I don't see how.
Oh my god
OK, the game is undoubtedly telling us that the world is coming to an end.
-What?
-You didn't know that?
Do something instead of getting upset of the ending of a game! What's wrong with you people? Are you kept in the dark, or you don't read the news at all? The world IS coming to an end unless we stop abusing the nature and overpopulate it.
Everybody knows this!
But this is a game! The twist should be fun! The shock, the "oh no", the ahhh ****, should be fun! It's like a movie!
Grow up or start reading news or something. Ffs you guys are not sane if you let a game ending upset you when there are real problems in the world!
Well, that's the point - the twist where all you did was wrong and meaningless is not fun.Originally Posted by fatcaz Go to original post
OK, that's how you feel. I respect that, even if it may look from my posts like I don't.Originally Posted by zixcv Go to original post
I do though.
I like these kind of "unexpected" endings. They give me a laugh, a slap in the face and I love it!
Didn't you feel that you killed all these people and maybe it wasn't right? Just maybe?
I killed thousands of "people"in the game.. I lit them on fire, sent wild animals on them to shred them apart, blow them up, had tons of fun, but I knew I was part of the problem that Joseph spoke of.
Or maybe you guys think that Christianity is the "good" believe and can't take the insult?
I still don't get it :-/
Fair enough.Originally Posted by fatcaz Go to original post
No, period. Just look at the cult. They abduct, murder and torture innocent people. Not all of them are armed and fighting the cult - most of them just live their lives. There's no reasoning you can excuse the cult actions, simple as that.Didn't you feel that you killed all these people and maybe it wasn't right? Just maybe?
Yeah, "not every problem can be solved with a bullet", that's what he (or the game designer) is saying.I killed thousands of "people"in the game.. I lit them on fire, sent wild animals on them to shred them apart, blow them up, had tons of fun, but I knew I was part of the problem that Joseph spoke of.
Well, he is wrong - you solve the problem of a murdering psychopath with a bullet, and solve it permanently.
Let's think what would happen if the Joseph is left to do his thing. He will brainwash whoever he can and kill all the others. Then he locks himself up with his army of fanatics inside the bunkers and emerge after a nuclear war, and probably will establish a pseudo-religious state on the ruins of the old world, taking whatever he wants by force and continuing his murdering and torturing.
Does this sound like a "right" thing to do - to let him do it?
Now lets once again think what would happen if Joseph is defeated before the nuclear war starts. Do you think that without him, the population could not organize themselves and try to survive it? Do you think that they need Joseph to "save" them? I don't think so. They still have shelters and bunkers. and chances are, more people will survive the nuclear blasts without the cult, considering how many Joseph killed.
Personally I just don't see how anything they do could be right from any point of view.