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[Vakris_One]

Firstly, calm down.

What I was saying is that a new player learns the ropes and most classes are gonna play in a certain way befitting their role (assassin, heavy, hybrid etc). Having learnt those basics, Cent, is completely different to all of them, a new player going up against a cent isn’t even going to learn how to respond once they take the particular hit we're all talking about because unlike any other character, you’re simply having a rough ride until it’s over, therefore he doesn't play by the same rules; and before you pop your nut again, it was a metaphor, not literal "rules". e.g. someone that doesn't fit in, a maverick. You get the point.

Like I said, he needs a buff and a rework - because as someone who's played enough I don't consider him a threat, and make damn sure he ain't around long enough in 4v4 because he's problematic with the way he fits into those modes. Apart from your obviously godly self, it doesn't take a lot of thought to see how he's a bad fit - not great 1v1, kinda awful 4v4, and for the most part not fun to fight against when he comes out of nowhere to punch you in the back of the head... or worse, he arrives with his 2 cent mates who all try to punch you in the back of the head for instakill jumping romans damage. Like most every other post has articulated above. You can keep the assumptions and advice, believe it or not others can play this game too. In the context of a new player, cent is a freight train compared to most the cast when you don’t know what to expect, and more than an annoyance otherwise.

In all fairness most characters are freight trains for a new player. Kensei, Highlander, Aramusha even Shugoki and Valkyrie can be an oppressive nightmare for new players. I don't think it should mean that every character who can stomp noobies should be made weaker because then we'd be nerfing 90% of the roster.

Centy McCentface was designed to be a playground bully, to throw the opponent around and generally man handle them. Much like a playground bully though once he steps out of the playground and into the mean streets (i.e. moves up from seal clubbing inexperienced players) he gets his arse handed to him by people he cannot bully around. It's a very flawed design to base a character around because it ensures this character will either be kept in B-tier on purpose or become a really unfun and nasty character for most people to fight like he was in Season 2. Either they redesign him or they keep him forcibly in the lower tier of heroes. The devs have really put themselves into a corner with Centurion.

[Kelson27]

I’m not saying any of them are perfect, should be nerfed or that newcomers don’t need to learn how to play, but I am saying cent in particular (especially 4v4) is built around disabling the player and all of his damage comes from a single mistake - the rest of the cast you can respond for the most part. There’s also disabling a player and getting free damage in a duel compared to disabling a player in 4v4, where if he ever connects that’s likely the end due to other players also getting in on that free damage. it’s a pretty big advantage if he’s coming from off screen, he had to go fast if you’re ever outnumbered.

You’re right, devs have definitely cornered themselves with this guy. I actually like the play style for him, I just don’t know how they work him out across everything for honour has to offer... without doing what they did and nerfing him into the ground. Now he’s still a pain, but not hard to deal with.

[Kelson27]

If the OP wants to be taken seriously by anyone who is very serious about this game then how OP words himself is important. If he's going to throw terms around like vortex incorrectly those people will not give him the time of day because he doesn't know the game on enough of a fundemental level to have a serious discussion with. Just because me or others are dismissing an argument from him doesn't mean we don't acknowledge his feelings. Just means that arguing would be pointless because the guy is legitimately ignorant.

I would say berzerker or shinobi are far worse heros (if we consider the person playing said heros to be experienced/ a veteran) for a new player to fight against. Zerker will ignore everything you do with hyper armor and attack faster than they could react. and shinobi will just dodge everything and bounce around from being up close to out of range getting constant sickle rains on a whiffed hit. imo Centurion is only at his peak of frustration when it comes to people who do know the game well enough but their reaction times are slow as heck or they just for whatever reason can't learn to read an opponents behavior.

As for "centurion being bad for the game/bad design" i'll have to agree to disagree. His execution of being a turtle breaker didn't work. but his current identity that he got on accident of being high risk high reward works rather well with the games fencing feels. I would argue shinobi or aramusha/zerk would be not fit for the game design wise. Shinobi is incredibly mobile in a game where mobility isn't factored in for anyone else. That's broken. And zerk/mushu being combo characters in a game that revolves around single hits maybe 2 before defense kicks in. also doesn't work well.

Common courtesy shouldn’t be conditional. Besides, you’re still here discussing it anyway right? So what the problem with having respect for others.

I’m with you on some of the other characters too, I actually like a lot of these characters but hyper armour and the newer characters/reworks are a step above/outside the original cast by a long shot - shinobi was a hell of a handful when he first came out and still sticks out like a sore thumb. Given how much he stands out kudos to the devs that he also isn’t a complete mess.

Cent is bad for what he brings to 4v4 more than anything else, my only problem with him is that he takes you out the match - which is a personal hate for most moves that remove control away from the player, he just does it with a tonne of damage and stamina in tow. I’ve got all my fingers and toes crossed for the orochi rework (hopefully in 2 days!) because more and more I’m hitting a wall, there’s just no options compared to these new classes. 1-2 hits is all I got! On a side note I jumped into arena last night to see what the preset move set was for him. Incredibly depressing for it to only have one, and that was storm rush into top lights... god i’d like to be able to mix it up a lil and not have every opponent immediately just guard top. Anyway I’m way off topic now, just my 2 cents 😋