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[SenBotsu893]

as expected ******* devs still keeping her save from substantial changes becasue she is the preacious child.

but wait whats that?

shugoki hug nerfed? oooooohh jeah i see. the 1200 ms, 60 selfinflicted damage on miss eternal recovery hug really was an issue right?

predators mercy? the 400ms, better tracking, no selfdamage on miss, second jump if missed, with more damage and even stamina regain on hit, while also beeing able to hold in order to bait a dodge in order to guarantee the hit wich is also guaranteed from a gb remains unchainged?

hahahahahahaha oh devs you so crazy.

not to mention adressing her throwdistance with guaranteed hunger/mercy. or how an assasin wich in itself heals by just attacking gains acces to 25% more defence feats and second wind.

amazing. its as if they dont even want to try to hide how unbelievable biased they are.
i expect the for honor playerbase to be biased, ignorant runts but its apparently too much to ask that developers work a bit more professional and not just endulge in theire bias.

but who am i kidding i talk about the devs that arranged a whole seasonal event tournament just to stroke his ego by showing of his abomination in a live event.

[ONYX_x5]

Hey!! They gave built in feints to all the hero's too now!!! So that was fair of them!! Oh wait

[Charmzzz]

as expected ******* devs still keeping her save from substantial changes becasue she is the preacious child.

but wait whats that?

shugoki hug nerfed? oooooohh jeah i see. the 1200 ms, 60 selfinflicted damage on miss eternal recovery hug really was an issue right?

predators mercy? the 400ms, better tracking, no selfdamage on miss, second jump if missed, with more damage and even stamina regain on hit, while also beeing able to hold in order to bait a dodge in order to guarantee the hit wich is also guaranteed from a gb remains unchainged?

hahahahahahaha oh devs you so crazy.

not to mention adressing her throwdistance with guaranteed hunger/mercy. or how an assasin wich in itself heals by just attacking gains acces to 25% more defence feats and second wind.

amazing. its as if they dont even want to try to hide how unbelievable biased they are.
i expect the for honor playerbase to be biased, ignorant runts but its apparently too much to ask that developers work a bit more professional and not just endulge in theire bias.

but who am i kidding i talk about the devs that arranged a whole seasonal event tournament just to stroke his ego by showing of his abomination in a live event.

I have 0 issues dodging Predator moves on reaction, even the missed second or feinted ones. I just got used to it I guess. Btw Pred Mercy is interrupted by any teammate hitting the Shaman. That is not true for Demon Embrace, and the only nerf to it was that the Shugo won't regain health if he did not kill the enemy with Demon Embrace but his teammates did. Not a big deal imo.

But I guess you have to rant over EVERY bit of changes the Devs did, the forum is literally spammed with your threads.

[Alustar.exe]

Yeah, shaman predators mercy is not nearly as safe as those opposing her design would have you believe. She had no hyper armor to keep her in that animation, so either your teammates or the shamans teammates(as Charmzzz pointed out) can pull her from the attack at any phase. She also didn't outright kill an opponent regardless of their health if she is in critical. The healing she gets from attacks while in blood trance are negligible at best, and don't really do much even in a 1v1. Don't believe me? Go try her out in a match and see just how easily she is punished by competent players that have taken the time to learn how to properly counter her.

[HazelrahFirefly]

I hope that Shaman isn't considered S-Tier anymore...
I'm a rep 13 Shaman and boy do the majority I fight know how to counter her. It's actually easier to win with the Orochi compared to her, though I assume this is because people have spent so much time being ****ed by the Shaman that they learned her nonsense.

Oh, and the only time I get a bite off in groups is when ONE of my buddies is the only teammate nearby. He plays Cent so we have an agreement to tryhard and never interrupt one another's cutscene lol.

[Charmzzz]

I hope that Shaman isn't considered S-Tier anymore...
I'm a rep 13 Shaman and boy do the majority I fight know how to counter her. It's actually easier to win with the Orochi compared to her, though I assume this is because people have spent so much time being ****ed by the Shaman that they learned her nonsense.

Oh, and the only time I get a bite off in groups is when ONE of my buddies is the only teammate nearby. He plays Cent so we have an agreement to tryhard and never interrupt one another's cutscene lol.

You playing on PC - Europe? Team up with me, I'm a PK Main so I will get you the bleeds you need and will never interrupt your Cutscene. I time my Heavy - Dagger followup so it connects when you finish off the bite, but before the enemy gets up.

[Knight_Raime]

I hope that Shaman isn't considered S-Tier anymore...
I'm a rep 13 Shaman and boy do the majority I fight know how to counter her. It's actually easier to win with the Orochi compared to her, though I assume this is because people have spent so much time being ****ed by the Shaman that they learned her nonsense.

Oh, and the only time I get a bite off in groups is when ONE of my buddies is the only teammate nearby. He plays Cent so we have an agreement to tryhard and never interrupt one another's cutscene lol.

She's not. She's A tier. Guy is just raging because something happened to a samurai hero. His other 2 threads show this as well. Anytime something happens to a samurai hero the guy just halls off to make a thread randomly grabbing some other hero to compare to (rather poorly as well.) ultimately the guy is just upset and wants to vent. Not have an actual discussion.

[HazelrahFirefly]

She's not. She's A tier. Guy is just raging because something happened to a samurai hero. His other 2 threads show this as well. Anytime something happens to a samurai hero the guy just halls off to make a thread randomly grabbing some other hero to compare to (rather poorly as well.) ultimately the guy is just upset and wants to vent. Not have an actual discussion.

Ah ok, well, I've certainly ranted here before so I can't judge him.

You playing on PC - Europe? Team up with me, I'm a PK Main so I will get you the bleeds you need and will never interrupt your Cutscene. I time my Heavy - Dagger followup so it connects when you finish off the bite, but before the enemy gets up.

Nah, I'm NA and PS4. I don't even go for bites unless I know I'm clear of teammates. I basically trust the enemy more to not strike lol.

[OdinHatesMe._.]

as expected ******* devs still keeping her save from substantial changes becasue she is the preacious child.

but wait whats that?

shugoki hug nerfed? oooooohh jeah i see. the 1200 ms, 60 selfinflicted damage on miss eternal recovery hug really was an issue right?

predators mercy? the 400ms, better tracking, no selfdamage on miss, second jump if missed, with more damage and even stamina regain on hit, while also beeing able to hold in order to bait a dodge in order to guarantee the hit wich is also guaranteed from a gb remains unchainged?

hahahahahahaha oh devs you so crazy.

not to mention adressing her throwdistance with guaranteed hunger/mercy. or how an assasin wich in itself heals by just attacking gains acces to 25% more defence feats and second wind.

amazing. its as if they dont even want to try to hide how unbelievable biased they are.
i expect the for honor playerbase to be biased, ignorant runts but its apparently too much to ask that developers work a bit more professional and not just endulge in theire bias.

but who am i kidding i talk about the devs that arranged a whole seasonal event tournament just to stroke his ego by showing of his abomination in a live event.

Dude are u serious. Shaman is easy to react. if u have dash attack shamans predators hungar or jump attacks are useless. even she feints it u can react she doesnt have anysafe move like other heroes but still u are complaning about her u just need to accept u are bad player. I play with compatative players and i clearly say that she aint that good anymore. She does not have super attacks like pk or she does not have hyper armor like berserker so whats your point. Furthermore, her damage is so low i can suggest that her attack damage needs to be like when she launch at first place

[Jacques-Le-Coq]

1v1 she isn't awful to fight, but throw her and say a Centurion or a Warden/Raider/Kensei/Gladiator. Shes a monster in ganking situations because she has a spammable opener. Pair her with a Nobushi and your basically ****ed.