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[Jedioutcast88]

Raider can be punished if the stampede misses. Or he needs to land a GB. LB can do his impale on any kind of parry. Well, heavy is the one you do it on. It's pretty good punish, especially if there is a wall back there.

Yeah even off the parry impale drains stamina and the amount of stamina depends on how far you push them away. I know the raiders stampede is punishable when missed m. I have punished raiders that come at me head on trying to pull that off. What I was getting at with the charge was that a raider can pick a character up on his shoulder run a decent distance while draining their opponent stamina and leaving them dazed if wall splat. While LB is left depending on the distance he pushes a player with little to no stamina left to do anything punishing. Maybe I’m still trying to figure out LB only rep 4 with him. I just think the stamina drain on impale can cripple him and doesn’t make sense and question why impale wouldn’t drain the opponent stamina instead.

[x6_Musashi_9x]

Really, buff the turtle, what a great idea!! (Sarcasm for those that don't get it) Look lb has huge health gets a stamina drain and free attack off of any block, see that BLOCK, not parry not deflect no just a normal lil old block, WTF, don't care really he is a pain in the *** to fight but hey so is a wall splatting cent or trip bash valk or any of the other easy wash rinse repeat spam every, EVERY hero has. Hell people whined and cried out when shamen and aramusha came out yes the light spam was bull yes the bite was bull, but it was LB holding the head at the end of the fight. He is a counter attacker, COUNTER, his parry punish is top notch can insta kill if leage near by, so yeah give him hyper armor, no wait already got that on the block to shove, give him more moves, no wait has probably the longest move list of the originals, cept maybe bushi and valk. so that a great idea lets just make a LB free for all and next time your full sprint and get speared in the back of a ledge, or get blocked by LB and then realize that he can't be GB dodged or stopped, you know cause the hyper armor. sounds fun. who's in?

[kanuzira]

Really, buff the turtle, what a great idea!! (Sarcasm for those that don't get it) Look lb has huge health gets a stamina drain and free attack off of any block, see that BLOCK, not parry not deflect no just a normal lil old block, WTF, don't care really he is a pain in the *** to fight but hey so is a wall splatting cent or trip bash valk or any of the other easy wash rinse repeat spam every, EVERY hero has. Hell people whined and cried out when shamen and aramusha came out yes the light spam was bull yes the bite was bull, but it was LB holding the head at the end of the fight. He is a counter attacker, COUNTER, his parry punish is top notch can insta kill if leage near by, so yeah give him hyper armor, no wait already got that on the block to shove, give him more moves, no wait has probably the longest move list of the originals, cept maybe bushi and valk. so that a great idea lets just make a LB free for all and next time your full sprint and get speared in the back of a ledge, or get blocked by LB and then realize that he can't be GB dodged or stopped, you know cause the hyper armor. sounds fun. who's in?

Did you just start to play the game because it most certainly looks that way. LB needs a buff to get out of turtle mod. also LB has no free attack.

[Synagen]

I main as a warden, saying the lawbringer has a small toolkit to me is laughable. Compare movelists of the 2. Lawbringer can dominate in the right hands. Practice

[SpaceJim12]

The only thing I can't handle on LB right now is feint/GB/light spam from Bers. Just too much hyperarmor and "cancel to everything else" moves and all you can do is turtling him and try to stay alive. But Bers just stupid OP that Ubi don't care, so.
First, I believe LB just need some hyper armore. It's ok for huge guy like him. Shugo have HA and Highlander have. So LB deffenetly need it.
Second, If you look at Season 6 logo, you will see classic katana, short sword and halberd, wich means devs have something for LB in upcomming season.

[Bomb-BA]

His impale after a parry is only guaranteed if you parry a light attack. The impale also counts as a heavy attack that does 20 damage (10 less damage than a heavy) and drains a lot of his own stamina. You could use it in fights to put people against walls for a free upper heavy (or cheese), but its too inconsistent. Even if you did parry a light attack, why not use his upper heavy after a parry for a guaranteed 45 damage? his impale needs a buff imo

[dinosaurlicker]

The only change needed for lb is making his unblockable heavy easier to access and making it able to cancel into a long arm flip

[Nose1234F]

Needs a rework, but I don't think it is that underpowered, I still do alright on Dominion.

[Nosmer1]

Lawbringer is not that bad. In season 4 he was top three in duels and top 1 in 4vs4 in the official stat sheet from the top 2.5% of players.. A lot of changes happened in season 5 of course, but he's probably not dropped by that much.

You are plainly wrong when you say he is the most underpowered hero in the game.

You really should take into consideration new players. If i recall correctly, season 4 brought in a lot of newbies, and thats where LB really shines - noobstomping. Same goes for cent actually - all hes good for is punishing you for your mistakes, which new players do a-plenty. Where both LB and Cent are trash is high-level play. No good openers, no useable chains - even if you can make them work, its not even remotely fun. LB needs a moveset, he needs chains and at least minimal offensive capability. Otherwise he cant survive the new anti-turtle meta.

[RLTygurr]

Literally all you need to do as Lawbringer is block and parry. That's it. if you can do that somewhat consistently, you can win as Lawbringer.

His hp is extremely high, his damage (whenever he actually his someone) is pretty good, and he's incredibly versatile.

He loves grabbing people, choking people, being a high school bully, and long walks on the beach.

In 4v4, his bombs make him one of the strongest teamfight/objective based heroes in the game. Add that to his impaling charge (which has a range of about 3 miles) and his Long Arm which is a hard cc, and you get a character who may suck in the hands of someone who's too aggressive but if you know what you're doing is an extreme menace to fight.

Here's something fun, try going into a match against 2-3 half-decent Lawbringers and you'll notice how difficult it is to survive the early game. Then, you'll see how impossible it is to survive the late game because of all the bombs.

TLDR: His feats are too powerful because of the sheer number of bombs, his impaling charge needs a range nerf, he needs some small form of offense.