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I gave enough examples of balanced or even underpowered DLC Characters. Your argument still fails to be accurate because it was only true for 1 out of 6 heroes. You can rage all you want, I don't really care...Originally Posted by OrangBall0fHate Go to original post
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Your examples have nothing to do with what I was talking about. You misunderstood me and yet you take the condescending tone.. I wasn't arguing. Simply stating my opinion which you didn't care to read, obviously. Still felt compelled to jump off in your own completely different direction without even realizing it. Just because you think I'm raging doesn't actually mean I'm raging...Originally Posted by Charmzzz Go to original post
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You played since beta and never were in situation when from one side LB push you (or toss over shoulder) wich obviously UB and from other side Raider make his zone? Or this facinating situations with two-three or even four Goki? Come on!Feel the same way and I've been playing since the beta. Ubi wanted people to spend more money on the game so naturally the dlc heroes were way better than the og ones. Now that's the bar everyone gets their own spammy combo now with more unblockables and feints. Hooray year 2 "balancing"....
While I agree about to much feints, that still can't help solve turtle meat at all, but UB...no, just no.
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Oh no I completely agree thats happened to me at least a billion times since the beta. I don't think more UB will help but obviously that's not how Ubi sees it.Originally Posted by SpaceJim12 Go to original post
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Yep, welcome back to For Honor.
Though the absolute gankfests, unblockable spam and unbalanced feats are only issues in 4v4's, namely Dominion. Those don't really exist in Duel and Brawl, or at least they are perfectly manageable.
Once the entire cast is reworked (or whoever needs it), they should turn their attention to making 4v4's... well, not complete garbage. There have been countless of people who complain about them, and there have also been countless people who offered reasonable solutions. All the devs gotta do is actually try.
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I could agree and disagree with you. I really hope they start to rework Dominion cause this gamemode need it as hell. But I pretty fine with 60-70% matches in Dominion. And sometimes (10%, maybe) I just really enjoy it. When game gives me opponents of my level of skill, when no lags, or everybody have good connection aaaand this absolut cool. You can beat people, they can beat you, whole process looks like real medieval confrontation. I hope devs do something to bring more matches like this I described.Once the entire cast is reworked (or whoever needs it), they should turn their attention to making 4v4's... well, not complete garbage. There have been countless of people who complain about them, and there have also been countless people who offered reasonable solutions. All the devs gotta do is actually try.
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Well, from the real life experience I could say that two big dudes with heavy swords deffenetly could kill you instantly. And even if you have shield, I believe every their attacks will be unblockable to you. And even unparryable (what in real life sword fight are the same things, you know).Whaaaat?! You don’t enjoy getting killed in .8 seconds by two highlanders?
So...from this side I see realism in For Honor. The problem that we have is low player numbers. In real fight if that two guys crushing you so probably in next moment someone put down a halberd in their heads. It's rough and unfair, while in For Honor it's just working stategy.
I think we need add on minions everywhere around map! It will be more close to real medieval fights.
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While I agree that the unblockables were introduced with the new characters was to speed up fights. Your other points fall flat as an argument to support the current unblock-able meta.
1. Yes the old cast had unblockables, however none of them destroy an opponent like the new dlc ones do. Warlord Headbutt never guaranteed a win. Its the fact it was so fast that people complained about it which has been addressed making it easily predictable. The warden shoulder-bash also doesn't guarantee a win. its easily read-able and doesn't do anything punishing that can't be countered. The lawbringers shove in its self again doesn't guarantee a win. The shove in itself doesn't do anything except, well, shove... its the LBs stupidly fast attacks that can follow afterwards that cause the annoyances and grievances. Conqueror shield bash was in a good state before the buff. The buff to make it more like the dlc unblockables has created the real problem as it can be abused to no end now and can guarantee a win in most encounters.
If you take the mechanics of all those unblockables from the core heroes and compare them to the dlc ones its pretty obvious that there is no real thinking involved with the dlc heroes. Centurion has the falcon punch which can guarantee wins due to it being a low risk / Extremely high reward move. (Knockdown, stun, and stamina drain regardless if the opponent has stamina or not, plus opening for a free high dmg pounce?) The same can be said for the gladiator unblockables, the dodge+shield bash move in on itself can win duels. add in the other unblockables and no further explanation is needed.
The point is, the new unblockables are a clear issue because they have been introduced without proper counters. That is why players are complaining about them, that is why nearly every single player who plays dlc heroes spam these like the world is on fire. The only way to counter these new unblockables is to dodge since most of them are not even parry-able. However, dodging is only a safe and viable option for assassin characters.
These new unblockables would be fine where they are at if the core heroes would have more viable options for countering them, but until each of them gets reworked they are an issue. Not to mention most of these are poorly designed. Take glads shield bash and toe stab. Why aren't these parry-able at least? The cents knockdown punch. Why does it stun, drain stam AND knockdown regardless if the opponent has stam or not?
Its pretty clear not much thought went into these.
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his is my main point, you should have to combo into an unblockable not the other way around. I find myself trying to dodge only to find out that sometimes it's tracked or my dodge must be a unlock roll. Partner that with just being slammed to a or wall and because of close quarters and you almost have a 100-0 combo just because of the initial unblockables
