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Now I understand it being an honest mistake on Ubisoft's part to not realize Aramusha can light/soft feint spam against all assassins at his release, but the fact that we have gone into the NEXT season without it being fixed is just an unprecedented show of incompetence on Ubisoft's part, especially after they buffed conq to give him the exact same light spam auto-win against everyone with reflex guard. Like seriously, "light spam" has been complained about since the game's beta (I was there with nobushi and orochi), but now that we ACTUALLY have an infinite light spam that makes for a worse cutscene for the victim than OG cent, a part of the game is now 100% unfightable and 200% unfun for all assassins, an entire class set.
And the worst part is the Aramushas on console who are well-aware of this and blatantly abusing it. I left a lobby that matched me against two abusive Aramushas in a lagfest, just to get requeued against them in the next lobby. Thank God for the leaving grace period.
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~console is a crutch argument. I play on console and i'm never insta killed via spam with mushu.
~if you're dying to conq light spam then the characters kits in question are not the issue. Your skill is.
~Reflex guard is receiving some bug fixes in the next patch coming up here in the next few days. Might alleviate some death to mushu according to the devs.
The rest just sounds like whining because you died rather than accepting your terrible reflexs are apart of why you died. If you want help on how to deal with a character i'd be more than happy to help. But if you're going to blame the class/developers for your own short comings then there is no point in me wasting my time on someone who doesn't want to listen.
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I can reliably block/deflect Aramusha and Conq light chains vs AI matchmaking OFF games.
The moment I go into PvP with latency being a reality, it is a ***fest. Same timing/reflex does not work anymore. Developers both incompetent in balancing and only test stuff on their internal servers, so game is not coded with the mindset of how it should have worked in online environment.
Sad thing is I was waiting for lag compensation to fix it, but all we get is 33ms input latency. Obviously it wont fix ****..
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Don't get me wrong I'm extremely biased against Ara ... Hate that guy.. So my opinion is a little weaker here because of that and I acknowledge that. But maybe specifically for console if the Aramusha does only light inf chain it seems impossible to block up because of stagger and I can't dodge backwards because of his heat-seeking blades.. I've had instances where I've literally spammed back dodge and end up just getting sh*t down my throat cause of those aforementioned heat-seeking blades.. same scenario with blocking up to try to stop the chain or at least block some of the damage but it just stun locks me... This only seems to happen against the inf light chain so most of the time a rep 2+ Ara won't even bother with it so I don't encounter it that often+ not that many Ara mains anyways (That I've seen)
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It’s got nothing to do with reflexes, and everything to do with latency and reflex guard. There is a delay on activation of reflex guard, I’ve proven it in videos from a thread posted some time back. That delay doesn’t exist for other classes, and when an assassin takes a hit the delay appears to actively be too slow to recover on console. No idea about pc, I’m on Xbox.
For reference, I main both raider and orochi.
As raider, ara won’t get a single light through, if they do, I can still get my guard up to stop it from continuing. As orochi however, I will brutalise ara until one of those lights slip through, then I’ll eat death or he’ll run oos, at which point I might as well be dead with my sliver of health left.
At the moment, I tend to find those still abusing light spam haven’t really got his kit down, unless it’s someone you’ve been destroying for the first half of the match and they break it out for revenge. Riptide strike has been amazing against these abusers for me. Other than that, right now, I practically single those aras out in dominion, they aren’t a hard matchup imo, but that light spam is a problem that no amount of “git gud” from the community is going to fix - put em down fast and hard.
I’d been holding out final judgement until lag comp comes in. Fingers crossed, if it could be responded to I think Ara would actually be a fun bout.
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Sorry man but it is not about skill... I am on PS4.Originally Posted by Knight_Raime Go to original post
Like it is said already up, if i play my Kensei or my Warden, even if feinting, i can stop quite easely most of the time the Ara combo.
BUT if i play my Shaman, My PK or EVEN my Valk... this is far more difficult.
First of all, the gard is too slow to activate on time on most of Ara lights if you get hit by one.
But another point is, even if you block it, with assassins most of the time this isn't interupting his combo ! It's mean he can just go through and hit hit hit again even if you block everything.
BTW you can block and interupt him but only if you really anticipate it which is not easy on console.
To finish, the new Conq lights chain is even worst in my opinion because he can change the direction as he want which is not the case for Aramusha combo.
Hop the next patch gonna fix it.
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I believe I have a top 10 Aramusha worldwide, would have to check again on that stat but like... I dropped the guy for Berserker. He's just not good once you block on him lol. Berserker does the better job then him and that's the guy i replaced him with. gotta get him to rep something though. only level 17.
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As some other players have already said, Aramusha does not auto-win with light attacks against Assassins. It's certainly hard to consistently block against Aramusha's lights as an assassin, but it is possible. The timing is rather tight, so try adjusting the deadzones on your controller and practicing against Aramusha bots to get used to blocking his attacks. When the training arena drops with this week's patch, you'll have an even better area to practice against this.
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I feel the problem with assassins vs Musha is their susceptibility to hit stun, not with the Musha himself. Coming from a 4v4 stance I've noticed that since he's been out, it's become more frequent that one or more payers will stagger attacks to keep an assassin locked in that animation with very little options. Couple that with a lack of lag compensation it becomes extremely frustrating. I don't notice this problem when I run highlander, since static guard seems more effective at dealing with multiple hits staggered together.
