ELO changes should not be entirely based on win/loss | Forums

[Luckydevil_010]

I solo que primarily and agree that I wish something could be done to stop me and others from being taken down due to bad teammates trolls ECT. But have to agree that's there really no real way to change it without screwing someone else over too. You can't screw one or several other people with an idea just to benefit a small group of people.
That being said what if there was less of an elo gain/loss for people leaving cause 4 v 5 makes for a lopsided fight not saying it can't be won but makes it very difficult. Unless that's already implemented and that's very few matches the way it is.

There aren't any good systems that can't be abused by trolls kill stealing and a lack of recognition for strats that don't get other people points or kills.

The problem with less elo loss for a 4v5 is the huge potential for abuse. Oh we're gonna lose guys ill take the penalty and dip to help my mates so it just opens up the door to more exploitation.

[Luckydevil_010]

The system as it is has a obvious problem, it doesn't really reflect your personal skill rather how good your team is doing.You can be a real good player but in bad teams you still lose. It is your rank, not your teams. I've seen so many silver/low-gold players beeing better than many platins...
Just an easy example, I had matches, and others maybe too, going 14-4 kills and I still lost due to unballanced teams. Yes I'm part of that team, but I think it's just unfair to handle everyone on the team the same. The same goes for winning. If you had nothing to do with your teams success or you even were a millstone around the neck, you should be punished accordingly with a loss of points. It shouldn't be to difficult, to take at least some aspects into consideration. I understand, there are some things which can't be awarded like breaching walls with thermite, tracking players with drones without scanning and much more, but some could be used for your elo.
To mention a few:
- award entry-frags, since those are really important
- winning last man standing situations like 1v1, 1v2, 1v3 and so on
- compare the stats of your team with yours, and the opponents (in the end, this game is very much about frags)
- early deaths, within several seconds, for spawnpeaks, greedy players etc. (esp. defenders)


How about a round by round system? Instead of looking at the match as a whole, maybe just rate every round by itself. And at the end you will get a +/- bonus, maybe in form of a multiplicator or something, for winning or the losing the match. I don't know how difficult this would be, since I'm not a coder, but somethings needs to be done. At least you should be able to get postive points although you lose and vice versa.

And you know what would happen if they started with what you want. A whole bunch of ppl kill stealing, dying cause they rushed, or generally doing something stupid for the kill which will screw the other 4 on their team. Also unless they were carried to plat I have never met a legit low gold/ silver that's been better than a plat it just doesn't happen. I move between gold1 and plat3 got put against silvers in a casual and destroyed them without trying it wasn't even fun. Some great advice find a team and stick with em.

[WBBCoop]

You should never be treated as an individual. But yeah the more you think, or try to upgrade it the more complicated it becomes. Also its not like ranked system will ever leave beta XD

I look at it this way, its 5v5 and it's completely and utterly up to the players to find teams of their very own. As an individual I can say that the teams that I have chosen have 5 different play styles and some of them are polar opposites. I like to hang obj and wait to hear (and kill) fuse, or just generally hang out around that location. But I also have heavy and unpredictable roaming players that have no biz being where their at and yet randomly get kills based on random entry points. All I know is that nobody is going to come grab this hostage and poof there goes the game. Good luck with them kills upstairs and hopefully you wipe them all out..then I'll relax. Right?