Still Don't See The Logic In Giving More XP In 4v4s Than Duels, Ubisoft... | Forums

[Mighty_Mackerel]

It's incredibly frustrating trying to level up a new character that you're trying out and the most efficient way to do that is 4v4 modes, but because the character you're using is rep 0 with no gear stats and everyone else is maxed out in their gear so you're constantly getting killed in 2 or 3 shots, the odds of doing well is slim and therefore you get even less xp for performing poorly.

Either change Duel modes so they give just as much xp as 4v4, or at least make an alternate mode of 4v4 where gear stats are turned off. In fact, can you do that in a custom match?

[MumfordDaHound]

Just play vs AI in 4v4 to get your guy up to a decent level. You get some gear and get some experience actually using a new character.

[Mighty_Mackerel]

Or I could do that... but still, duels should give more experience, y'know what I mean? I mean, why does a mode that allows you to get easy kills by ganking and/or using feats give you more xp when in duel mode you have to rely on our individual skill and no gear stats or feats, and it gives way less xp? Doesn't make sense to me.

[Cliff_001]

It's based on time, it takes longer to finish a dominion that a duel.

[UbiJurassic]

I totally get the sentiment behind the post, Mighty_Mackerel. It can be super intimidating or difficult to go into a 4v4 with a new hero that has yet to gain enough gear to close the GS gap. However, the reason for the XP difference is to level out the XP a player can gain given the time commitment. While game time per match can widely differ for players, Dominion games tend to last longer than the average Duel. In the time frame of one typical Dominion game, you could probably play 2 or 3 Duels depending on how many rounds you go and the difficulty of the opponent. Therefore, the XP gain is normalized between the two modes.

[RoosterIlluzion]

Not too bright then are you? 4x4 game modes take longer!

[HazelrahFirefly]

Not too bright then are you? 4x4 game modes take longer!

Don't be an a$$

[CandleInTheDark]

Longer duels and shorter (ie steamroll) dominions can be around the same length but on balance dominion is probably three times longer than duel and does require the extra xp. While perhaps it might be a good thing for longer duels to get more xp and shorter dominions to get less, all in all the devs are trying for roughly equal reward per time.

As someone who doesn't play many duels and certainly doesn't have a rep only on duels I can't say how close to balanced rewards over time are but dominion all in all does need a higher xp gain than duel.

[Mighty_Mackerel]

Not too bright then are you? 4x4 game modes take longer!

No need to be rude bro, I know full well why 4v4 mode gives more xp now as it has been explained to me in this thread, but I'm arguing to Ubisoft that that logic (longer games give more xp) is flawed and I'm giving what I believe are valid points as to why duel modes should give more xp. Feel free to disagree though.

[Mighty_Mackerel]

I totally get the sentiment behind the post, Mighty_Mackerel. It can be super intimidating or difficult to go into a 4v4 with a new hero that has yet to gain enough gear to close the GS gap. However, the reason for the XP difference is to level out the XP a player can gain given the time commitment. While game time per match can widely differ for players, Dominion games tend to last longer than the average Duel. In the time frame of one typical Dominion game, you could probably play 2 or 3 Duels depending on how many rounds you go and the difficulty of the opponent. Therefore, the XP gain is normalized between the two modes.

I see. Then at the very least, perhaps you can take my second suggestion into consideration about having an alternate 4v4 mode without gear stats or abilities... sort of like what you guys did with realistic mode. Just some food for thought. Thanks for the info.