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I'm not trying to imply that Centurion is overpowered. In fact, if you ask me, Centurion is so limited in terms of moveset that they're probably underpowered in most situations. But that limitation comes with a caveat: The Centurion can only really do one thing in a fight, and the one thing he can do annoys the hell out of me.
I hate fighting against Centurions. Both skilled and unskilled ones - Although skilled Centurions are far more frustrating than unskilled ones, who are merely boring.
I hate fighting him because every single encounter goes one of two ways, neither of which is enjoyable: Either the player I'm fighting will be unskilled, and I'll be able to tear the Centurion apart without even thinking. Or, more often, I'll face a Centurion who knows what they're doing, and I'll get parried/hit once, and my entire stamina bar will be gone for the rest of the fight while I get combo'd into oblivion, unable to defend myself while this Roman wannabe jerk-off screams the same three Latin words at me like a broken speaker.
Every single fight against a Centurion goes like this.
Every. Single. One.
Simply put? He's not fun. He's not fun to play against, and based on my limited exposure to him, I can't imagine he's much fun to play as, either, considering he can do, like, one thing.
It's not fun to spend an entire fight with no stamina because I got parried or hit once.
It's not fun to get my UI disabled and my screen blurred while an obnoxious bell noise chimes every 0.5 seconds.
It's not fun to have the same 3 words screamed at me by a guy whose helmet lining must now be covered by a thick layer of old spit.
It's not fun to rip apart an enemy in 3 seconds who poses no challenge, on the rare occasion I fight a Centurion who isn't good at the game.
It's not fun to be completely helpless and unable to react to anything for 90% of a bloody fight!
It is not fun to play against the Centurion. I hate fighting him, I hate meeting him on the battlefield, I hate the way that he can easily lock you into a combo during 4v4 and 2v2 matches by hitting you with a single attack, I hate how he can decimate your stamina bar completely after landing a single parry or hit on you, I hate how much damage his combo does, I hate how much he screams at you, I hate how unpredictable and janky his hit timing is, I hate his stupid cape, I hate his stupid tiny sword, I hate his dumb Roman armour, I hate that he's what my favorite faction got as a first DLC hero, I hate everything about this class!
I thought I hated Shaman the most, you know? Once upon a time? And sure, Shaman still has a place on my list of gripes with the game. But at least, at least, the Shaman isn't so bloody boring! At least when a Shaman spams me to death, I usually get to see a different combo each time, at least when I fight Shaman, I can take a few moments to dodge or attack in between getting pummeled by crazy fast combo attacks.
But Centurion? It's the same moves, the same combo, the same obnoxious voice lines, every bloody time.
I don't think I'll ever enjoy facing off against (or even attempt playing as) the Centurion until they've had a complete rework. And I mean, from the ground up, back to square one, redo from the start rework.
Get rid of that stupid stunlock combo.
Change how much stamina he can destroy.
Give him some proper move variation and defensive capabilities.
Record some new voice lines.
Centurion, as he exists now, is the bane of my enjoyment in this game. He's not overpowered, but I will continue to hate fighting against him until he's undergone some major changes.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to go down to the supermarket to buy some more salt, I think I used up my entire stash of it just then. Hope you enjoyed the rant, and to any devs, I hope you're taking this on board as more than mere frustration. There's a reason I groan and roll my eyes every time I face off against this class, and it isn't because they're "op"
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Instead of saying 'I hate this, I hate that' try to be more descriptive.
All I can make up from your post is that you hate Centurion the way he is, which doesn't make sense.
Honestly I'll have to disagree with all of what you said because you haven't supported why you hate him so much. Yes you told us that the constant loss of stamina is a problem to you. In that case, instead of running at a Centurion throwing all your attacks at once making you lose all your stamina, try to be more defensive. Wait for the Centurion to attack, parry it, give him a nice smack on his face, and tadaah. Is he Sparta-kicking your guts? Step aside and GB or swing your sword. Is he jabbing your jaw off? Dodge aside. Can't be any simplier.
I've mained Centurion ever since he came out. I'm rep 47 now and I've seen many people winning from me and other Centurions. Yes he does have problems, but not that he's OP or annoying. In the contrary, Centurion has been nerfed to rockbottom now and he's almost boring to play because of people complaining how OP or annoying he is whilst he clearly isn't.
I've got a topic on Reddit where I'm gathering information on many For Honor heroes for the Devs to consider in the reworks. It'd be nice to have your opinions on it, but please make sure it's actually constructive and not a rant like this.
I'm not trying to be rude, I want to defend my main from being nerfed another time.
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I just read your reddit post. Quite interesting.
I do agree on the Centurion being far from op at this point thanks to the nerfs. Playing against him is however, as the op stated, both boring and annoying. Boring because of a rather limited moveset and annoying because of the cutscene-esque consequence of failing to dodge once. So his feelings do echo with me.
I do have problems with the timing of his unblockables, though parrying isn't something I'm particularly good at. Practice should help with this one eventually.
And of course his obnoxious voice lines are, well, obnoxious. Especially when screamed by three of them on end.
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I agree with that.
The Centurion has a small moveset and frankly everyone knows it. So fighting as Centurion is almost just as boring as fighting against one.
That's why I made that Reddit post to see the perspectives from others, too. Is it really that boring? That way, I can support my statements which is, in my opinion. better than simply ranting.
Sadly, not many people reply to the topic nowadays, so I'm hoping for that to change lol.
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I'm sorry, did you read my post? I thought I was being pretty clear as to why I dislike fighting the Centurion, and I even go on record - twice, I might add - that I don't think he's overpowered at all, just frustrating and boring.Originally Posted by Domini_Defanata Go to original post
I don't want to see Centurion nerfed, I want to see him changed. Reworked, redone, completely revamped. Give him more health! Give him better move variation! Give him some proper mixups and combos and counters! By all means, give the poor class some love! As long as they get rid of that godawful stamina-eating stunlock combo, I'll be happy.
But, seeing as you apparently missed the core points of my thread, let me "be more descriptive" for you:
The Centurion is a one-trick pony, who can do one thing well and is completely useless beyond that single trick. If you're lucky, you can prevent the Centurion from starting his combo, and then he's an absolute joke to fight. So much so that even fighting an unskilled Centurion is boring because all the bugger can do is try desperately to lock you into his one, single combo.
However, if he can start that combo up, then guess what? You don't get to play the game anymore. Once the combo starts, your stamina gets destroyed, your screen gets blurred, your UI vanishes, and you literally have no chance to react or defend yourself while the Centurion throws you around like a ragdoll and finishes it off with an unavoidable, massive-damage pounce move. The only way this combo stops is if another player interrupts the Centurion (which can't happen in duels for obvious reasons) or if the Centurion somehow messes up their flow - I've fought plenty of Centurions, and not a single time has one of them failed to follow through with the entire combo.
This might not be so bad if the combo was harder to start, but the Centurion can generally start the combo by landing one, single hit or succeeding in a single parry. From there, they can do their stamina-destroying punches and kicks, then combo you into oblivion.
To add to frustration is that stamina problem. Being able to effectively render any class out of stamina within mere seconds using what is, essentially, two moves (one of which can be 100% chained from the first, as far as I can tell) is insane! And don't think for a second that you're in the clear after the combo ends, because guess what? The rest of the combo also deals stamina damage, meaning that once you're finally able to control your character again, you still have to hang back, wait, play defensive and be at a disadvantage because you're almost certainly still waiting to get your stamina back. And you can bet your bottom dollar that the Centurion will take that advantage to the bank, starting the whole, irritating process over again.
So, to clarify: A hugely limited moveset, basically no defensive options or move variation, and one single "crutch" combo which forces control away from the enemy for long periods of time, deals massive damage, and leaves them open for further attacks after finishing.
All that, combined with the fact that the Centurion apparently only has the ability to say four words, all of which he screeches at the top of his lungs like a damn banshee, and the fact that he's an ancient Roman style character in a medieval setting all serve to further push my buttons for this class.
There, is that "descriptive" enough for you?
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Like what Col.Bullet mentioned and as stated in my post, I didn't mean to be rude.
We're on the same boat so no need to be mad at each other.
If you have any advice for the For Honor dev team to take into consideration when reworking the Centurion, maybe write that in the comments on my Reddit post?
I'm sorry if it didn't come in the right way.
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You say you didn't intend to be rude, and yet you basically claimed I was just saying "I hate Centurion!" Without explaining why, and implied that I wanted him nerfed when I called him underpowered in the very first paragraph.Originally Posted by Domini_Defanata Go to original post
My only conclusion is that you didn't read past the thread title, which, if you ask me, is pretty rude.
As for your post, I read it and I'm glad that there are others asking for Cent' to get reworked, but I can't help noticing that you left out the fact he's an absolute pain to fight against - Hell, that's why he got nerfed so hard in the first place!
But instead of tackling the problem people were having with him - to wit; the way he stunlocks you and destroys your stamina the moment he so much as touches you - the devs just crippled his stats and made it so that his stunlock combo is now the only thing he can really do!
He absolutely should be reworked, and have his stats buffed, too. But part of that means saying goodbye to his cutscene move. Ideally, he can get changed up enough so that he no longer needs it to be viable. Stylistic choices aside, he's got a lot of potential as a cool character, but right now hes just "That annoying guy who yells all the time and stops you being able to play the game."
Now, I don't use Reddit, I avoid it like the plague, in fact. And I absolutely do not want to encourage the habit the devs have of prioritizing Reddit over the official forums. But if you like, feel free to quote any sections of my posts here to help illustrate your point over there. Might want to link to this thread as a source, too.
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