1. #11
    It still won't feel like Splinter Cell even if Michael Ironside returns if Irving Lambert doesn't return.
    I feel like you might be right. Going through missions as they slowly intensify the story throughout the game just might not feel as good when Lambert isn't talking in your ear.

    I wouldn't mind a reboot of Splinter Cell if it was a way for them to make the game basically a sequel to Chaos Theory with all the same voice actors and bring Lambert back. Clint Hocking possibly being involved with Splinter Cell 7 is the only thing that makes me have ANY hope that Splinter Cell could return to it's roots and not just be another Conviction/Blacklist
    Reboots usually suck, but at this point, can it get any worse?
    Ubisoft will find a way.

    Wow! I didn't know that. Rainbow Six 3 is CLASSIC Tom Clancy at it's very best. But how much of a role did he actually have in the making of that game?
    People have their places. I have good ideas for games, but it's very specific games.... not literally every game ever which is why you can't just have some random Creative Director do your games. It's like me being Creative Director for the next Civilization Revolution. I don't even play the games, I don't even like the games, so why would I bother working on them?

    Maxime Beland is the EXACT SAME THING.
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  2. #12
    Maxime Beland is very passionate about Splinter Cell, you can see the reaction he has when everyone is screaming of happiness when they show the trailer and gameplay of Blacklist on Microsoft E3 conference. He loves Splinter Cell and new ideas are always welcome.

    I get why some people didn’t like the changes Conviction and Blacklist had but I (being a player since the first Splinter Cell) welcome those ideas and I love Conviction and Blacklist, they have problems of course like all the previous games but it was a good change in some respects. It wouldn’t be fun or innovative to have the same gameplay the first 4 had, time changes people and so everything does, cars, phones, videogames, etc.

    Now neither Lambert or Ironside need to come back. Yes, go ahead kill me, if you can that is….
    Lambert was a great character, but I don’t miss him, and there’s no way he is coming back, his story is finish, move on.
    Ironside is a great actor/voice actor but I don’t care to much about him playing Fisher again, if he is going to be obligated to do the character, then is better he doesn’t do it. He liked Conviction because Fisher was on his own and he didn’t have to obey orders aka “don’t kill this or that because is wrong” that changed when Blacklist was born, and he didn’t like the idea of Fisher going on those routes again, reason why he didn’t do the voice acting. Also, if the scrip writers don’t do a good job writing Fisher personality then doesn’t matter who does the voice is going to be crap anyway.

    The voices of Lambert and Grim had change multiple times, it happens. Yes, I agree Eric’s voice is way younger, is time for a change of actor don’t care who does it if it sounds right. I play the Spanish version and the voice actor, Luis Bajo, is a top Sam Fisher, right there with Ironside.
    Sam Fisher being the playable character again makes sense and I like it that way, till the story on the games gives me a good reason of why not to.
    1.The story from Blacklist is not finish so it makes sense that he is still present.

    2. He is not old enough. He would be on game timeline 54 years old at the moment of Blacklist/next game, at that age if you exercise and take care of yourself like Fisher does, is possible to do pretty much everything. See John Wick for example or better yet, a Keanu Reeves and he does all the stunts and on real life he is very good on combat. So no, Fisher is not old enough. Both of them can come here and kick any younger *** out there.

    Grow up people and be mature, games move on, and so we should to.
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  3. #13
    Originally Posted by JustLikeFisher Go to original post
    Whatever happened to respect, example and manners from SENIOR members?!

    I respect Maxime Béland for his work on Splinter Cell. Despite a change of creative would be welcome.
    You are talking to EddieTheBunny, the only thing you can expect from him are childish comments, I would call him a 5 year old but not even 5 year old are that childish lol
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  4. #14
    Originally Posted by semajmarc87 Go to original post
    Wow! I didn't know that. Rainbow Six 3 is CLASSIC Tom Clancy at it's very best. But how much of a role did he actually have in the making of that game?
    Who knows he also worked in RS Las Vegas, remember that option to mark enemies so your teammates could kill those enemies first? When Conviction was shown i though the mark and execute idea came from RS Las Vegas, which was use again on GRFS
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  5. #15
    Originally Posted by LoneSpymaster Go to original post
    Maxime Beland is very passionate about Splinter Cell, you can see the reaction he has when everyone is screaming of happiness when they show the trailer and gameplay of Blacklist on Microsoft E3 conference. He loves Splinter Cell and new ideas are always welcome.
    Agreed.

    This also brings me onto the point that some of us blatantly show that we still have zero experience working in the creative industry. Childish, highly naive and selfish comments. Sure passionate discussion is normal but carbon copying a statement on *almost* every single reply with the same pessimism and insult to REAL people is just weak and cheap. People who've made a commendable effort to evolve this franchise.

    @LoneSpyMaster if you've worked on SCC/Blacklist, thanks for your work. It is appreciated by true SC Fans.

    Loved Blacklist. Loved every Splinter Cell so far. Super hyped as everyone else is about this year though
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  6. #16
    And by "true SC Fans", I mean a slightly divided SC fanbase.

    Two sides:
    First side: Respectful, hardcore fans that appreciate and welcome efforts of evolving the franchise. Glass half full.
    Second side: Split into two more sides!
    - 1st : Respectful, hardcore fans who have worked a day in their life. want to see change but appreciate SC's attempt to evolve. Glass half full.
    - 2nd : Hardcore fans who haven't worked a day in their life. And salty because their favourite game isn't going the direction they want it.
    Glass half empty.
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  7. #17
    There was one interview with Beland about Conviction decisions. The original team somehow was not able deliver new game in appropriate time and there were issues with the game (Everyone remembers Jason Bourne gameplay from original Conviction idea in semi-open/free-roam maps where Fisher had hoodie and could interact with environments. Well yeah, that concept didnt work, but they had a story done etc, so new team was responsible to make it faster and thats how new ideas were born - panther, etc. In another interview Beland says:

    "Maxime Béland: Well, I think the concept we have now is definitely an evolution of Splinter Cell, right? What I'm most excited about is that we're changing what people think about stealth games. We're changing the way we play them, the way we design them and the way the players are going to play them.

    I want players to feel that they are Sam Fisher. He's the best elite agent in the world; he's not like me in real life – I am me in real life – I'm slow when I walk, I can't climb pipes – I wanna be that guy! What I tell the team is, I want the player to feel like a predator, not a grandmother.

    But it's so much stealth. All the references, moves – I don't know if you saw Vantage Point, but the scene when he's going up the stairs and he puts on the mask, and then he's killing guys with the mirror – Pew-pew-pew! Super-fast, super-silent - but dynamic."

    Well, it works for Conviction - revenge story, but seems as Conviction had good sales, a lot of players(newcomers) liked the game because it was not so hardcore like original trilogy (I dont like double agent PC version), so thats why they proceeded with similar playstyle in Blacklist. Yeah they improved level design in Blacklist - more opened, more gadgets etc to play with, but game itself was strictly linear with no puzzles to it, only killing or ghosting in linear way from A to B checkpoints and yeah - forced action sequences nobody liked.
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  8. #18
    I wouldn't miss:
    - Elbow knockouts
    - Petit variation of knife/hand kill animations
    - Conveniently visible red lasers
    - Stupid AI
    - Maximum of 3-6 stupid AI

    No problem remaining stealthy on Blacklist. Conviction was character building at the expense of some stealth opportunity.

    Next game. Move on.
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  9. #19
    Maxime Beland is very passionate about Splinter Cell, you can see the reaction he has when everyone is screaming of happiness when they show the trailer and gameplay of Blacklist on Microsoft E3 conference. He loves Splinter Cell and new ideas are always welcome.
    No, see he is passionate about HIS work on the series. He is not passionate about the series itself. He already said it himself when he made Conviction that he didn't like the old games, so what did he do? He tweaked it to his liking and gave no ****s what everyone else thought.

    It wouldn’t be fun or innovative to have the same gameplay the first 4 had, time changes people and so everything does, cars, phones, videogames, etc.
    Well here, why don't I just take the next elder scrolls game and make it bird's eye view, make everything so ridiculously scaled, maybe add a few new races in there, just **** everything up pretty much, but so long as I can play as an Argonian and look like a knight, it's still Elder Scrolls!

    We're not asking for LITERALLY the EXACT SAME THING


    Also, if the scrip writers don’t do a good job writing Fisher personality then doesn’t matter who does the voice is going to be crap anyway.
    I can agree with that. That's half the reason Eric sounded so bad anyway.

    Grow up people and be mature, games move on, and so we should to.
    Oh we have and the games we have gotten are 85% Generic Linear First Person shooters, 10% Multiplayer only games, and 5% Zombie games. How innovative. Surely these are the times to be living in... glad we "moved on".

    You are talking to EddieTheBunny, the only thing you can expect from him are childish comments, I would call him a 5 year old but not even 5 year old are that childish lol
    What's childish is to say try to insult someone, but saying you're not going to.
    I type how I speak and when I speak about this series, I speak with emphasis and passion which means I will have plenty of capital letters and maybe a few F Bombs that apparently trigger everyone. I figured everyone is okay hearing profanity since I'm pretty sure everyone here is 18+ and I won't hurt their delicate virgin ears.
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  10. #20
    Two sides:
    First side: Respectful, hardcore fans that appreciate and welcome efforts of evolving the franchise. Glass half full.
    Second side: Split into two more sides!
    - 1st : Respectful, hardcore fans who have worked a day in their life. want to see change but appreciate SC's attempt to evolve. Glass half full.
    - 2nd : Hardcore fans who haven't worked a day in their life. And salty because their favourite game isn't going the direction they want it. Glass half empty.
    The irony I'm seeing here is that this is more of the judgmental statement than what these "pessimistic" fans say. I mean if the pessimistic side speaks negative, the "optimistic" side goes after them. If the "optimistic" side says they like the game, the "pessimistic" people keep scrolling. The "pessimistic" people are really only after the developers if they are to critique anything and the "optimistic" side lose their **** over it.
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