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[Maxime_Qc-]

...this game as just become ...

Full of speed of light spam

Super fast feint

50/50

Lagg

Poor fps on console and waaaaaay more ********

So in others word everytime you think you win.. remember all this... and that nothing was legit... you didn't really win !!

[Charmzzz]

So, if you and I face each other, and both of us "spam lights", "feint super fast" and use only "50/50s", and one wins, he did not win "legit" because he used the same moves as you did!?

1. Light Spam: was always in the game, is nowhere nearly as effective as it was on release (several nerfs to alot of light chains and added recovery times between interrupted chains)
2. What is a "super fast feint"? A feinted heavy is a feinted heavy. Sure, there are different timings, but, well, you can just block and be safe?
3. 50/50: There is no true 50/50 in the game. Not one. Every move can be punished. Ok, some Characters (e.g. Highlander) cannot punish every move (e.g. WL Headbutt - Dodge - GB) due to higher dodge recovery times, but that does not make the move a 50/50 by definition.
4. Lagg: Agree, let's hope Timesnap / Lag Compensation comes back soon.
5. Gosh, again this brainless argument. 30 FPS compared to 60 FPS still gives you only 16ms more time to react in very special circumstances (if the enemy started his move exactly when the screen refreshed)

[SpaceJim12]

So, if you and I face each other, and both of us "spam lights", "feint super fast" and use only "50/50s", and one wins, he did not win "legit" because he used the same moves as you did!?

I believe Maxime speak about something different. I know his feelings, cause I started think about something like this in S4.
Situations, when you fight with some char (let's say, Kensei), and in one game you see his move, react and parry most of attacks. But couple games past you'll meet another Kensei with same gear, useing same attacks. Your reaction time can not changed in a couple games, but you start miss 80% of his attacks, that is same as previous Kensei you met. So, only explanation is you lagged in first case, or Kensei lag in second. And dedicated servers did't make difference. So, you can't be 100% sure that you won by your skill, or just cause of lags.

[Charmzzz]

So, you can't be 100% sure that you won by your skill, or just cause of lags.

OP posted a list of things what, in his opinion, this game has become. Lag is 4th in his 5 point list. So no, he is not complaining about lag only. He is complaining, like he does in alot of threads, about the same things over and over again. Especially the FPS-discussion gets really old because it is not that big difference.

[SpaceJim12]

OP posted a list of things what, in his opinion, this game has become. Lag is 4th in his 5 point list.

But all of them (exept fps issues, can't to judge about it while play on PC) are caused by lags. In normaly you can react to feints, but some games you can't, but you reflex are same all the time. Same things with a lights.
Let's see what will happen after lag compensation. It must add some stable to the game.