At this point I’d rather the turtle meta, than the assassin meta. | Forums

[lMoosel]

It’s getting old fighting nothing but assains, back dodge is still one of the best moves in the game. It just gets old queing up for duels and brawls and fighting nothing but assains with the occasional kensei or conq in there. I miss the days when you’d actually see some hero variety, hell I ran into a rep 48 valk the other day and we must of played a good 8+ matches it was refreshing.

[Cliff_001]

Assassins have been the meta ever since the game came out, nothing's changed.

[Animaeus]

Backpedalling has always been stupid and entirely too effective. This is nothing new.

But they actually recently said they're finally going to do something about it.

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[WastedPunk]

But they actually recently said they're finally going to do something about it.

I bet they are gonna do something that will make the backdodge completly useless and in turn,make assassins useless.
It's never a fix with Ubisoft,it's either a hard buff or a hard nerf

[SerSine]

It’s getting old fighting nothing but assains, back dodge is still one of the best moves in the game. It just gets old queing up for duels and brawls and fighting nothing but assains with the occasional kensei or conq in there. I miss the days when you’d actually see some hero variety, hell I ran into a rep 48 valk the other day and we must of played a good 8+ matches it was refreshing.

Anytime I dodge back I get guard broken the tracking is excellent, try it out. After a hit. Or dodge forward. No need to rush.

[XJadeDragoonX]

If we go by the stats of the season 4 numbers, with only berserker, kensei, and conq seeing a change in actual balance, I'd say this isn't the assassin meta. The only assassin's at the top of the tier list are shaman and pk. And I never face either of them in duel. If anything I would say it's the hybrid meta because that's what I mostly see. But it also depends on what elvle you play. On lower skill levels you're more likely to see an assassin

[Oupyz]

If we go by the stats of the season 4 numbers, with only berserker, kensei, and conq seeing a change in actual balance, I'd say this isn't the assassin meta. The only assassin's at the top of the tier list are shaman and pk. And I never face either of them in duel. If anything I would say it's the hybrid meta because that's what I mostly see. But it also depends on what elvle you play. On lower skill levels you're more likely to see an assassin

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its rare to see assassins in duels i agree

but back dodge is broken non-theless

[XJadeDragoonX]

Yeah I agree. Back dodge is powerful. But again I think it's because people don't know how to deal with it. I get guard broken during back dodge allllll the time. You gotta take advantage when they first go out of stamina because the first thing they do is back dodge. So let's say they do a feint and go out of stamina, just keep hitting guard break. They won't be able to move away. They'll have to keep countering. But once they get out of your grasps, they're gone

[Baturai]

Not every Assassin is on the Same Level when it comes to "backdodge". Shaman Pk Shinobi are the ones you should blame they have very fast backdodge recovery. I am not sure about Berserker tho.
I always get *** whopped with my Orochi when i get out of stamina. back dodge is a suicide. v.s conq ? you simply lost XD

[XJadeDragoonX]

Berserker back dodge is meh. People catch me really often. Pk moves the fastest and then shaman. Orochi, berserker, and glad are pretty average if you ask me. Not much of a difference from the rest of the cast