A humble suggestion regarding emotes | Forums

[eLhabib]

I don‘t know about most of you, but I for one am sick and tired of the emote spam in this game. The fact that you can cancel any emote leads to ridiculous teabagging and a toxic environment. It also takes away from what the emotes were originally designed to be: a way to greet or taunt the enemy.

I would suggest a very simple solution to this problem: make emotes non-cancelable (is that a word?) - meaning, once I start an emote, I can‘t do ANYTHING else before it has played out. And yes, that means I am vulnerable to attacks, but then that‘s what a taunt is meant to be: a way to show off, drop your pants down and show the enemy you‘re not afraid of them.

Please consider this, as I feel it would make the game much more enjoyable and remove unwanted spam, while also giving taunts a true meaning.

Plus, I don’t think it‘s a change that is hard to implement.

Thanks for your attention.

[JordanFireStar]

I can see where your coming from, but I don't personally see much of a problem in the emote spam. I mean, whats the worst that happens? Someone does an emote? The only thing is that it really takes away some of the meaning, but I could see people running up to you and backstabbing you while emoting. Or if you accidently hit the emote button...

[bob333e]

This is the rather unpopular opinion, but I wouldn't mind either, if the emotes were no longer spammable. This game needs all the serious little things it can get before it completely slips into the meme cave and would have no chance of crawling back out.

Instead of making emotes uncancellable I'd suggest they can be cancelled but they cannot be re-initiated while the animation is still playing. Like Dark Souls 2 / Dark Souls 3.

[BTTrinity]

I don‘t know about most of you, but I for one am sick and tired of the emote spam in this game. The fact that you can cancel any emote leads to ridiculous teabagging and a toxic environment. It also takes away from what the emotes were originally designed to be: a way to greet or taunt the enemy.

I would suggest a very simple solution to this problem: make emotes non-cancelable (is that a word?) - meaning, once I start an emote, I can‘t do ANYTHING else before it has played out. And yes, that means I am vulnerable to attacks, but then that‘s what a taunt is meant to be: a way to show off, drop your pants down and show the enemy you‘re not afraid of them.

Please consider this, as I feel it would make the game much more enjoyable and remove unwanted spam, while also giving taunts a true meaning.

Plus, I don’t think it‘s a change that is hard to implement.

Thanks for your attention.

I also think its pretty annoying sometimes, and really ruins the atmosphere of the game for me. I can also see how its fun tho for some, Id personally rather it not be in the game but I wont die if it stays.

[eLhabib]

I‘ve been playing since launch and not once did I accidentally hit the emote button, so I don’t think that‘s a real problem.
Regarding your question: the worst that happens is endless teabagging, which of course is also not a real problem, but the game would be nicer and less toxic without it.

As for people running up to you and hitting you while you are taunting: that‘s my whole point - you shouldn‘t taunt if you can’t deal with the consequences or are safe enough to taunt.

And while I said you can‘t do anything while your emote plays out, I meant that if you get hit, of course it cancels you out of the emote.

[Illyrian_King]

The game is running more and more away from its concept ... I don't like this!

[Danish_Crusader]

Yeah those emote spams are annoying. Easy fix would be to add a 5 second cooldown to the emotes.

[Tundra 793]

For what it's worth; I'd like the Community, the Ubi representatives and the team to consider the disconnect between their forum community, and their Reddit community.

The emote spam always annoyed me, it was one of the many contributing factors that led me to quit the game, and I've seen similar sentiments across the forum for a while.
The Valentines Day emote effects were intentionally designed to be spammed, as it increased the effects Effect. It was largely lauded by the Reddit community; https://www.reddit.com/r/forhonor/co...ffect_you_can/

Eric Pope personally posted this to the Reddit; https://www.reddit.com/r/forhonor/co...h_devs_to_you/
It wasn't re-posted here in any capacity as far as I'm aware (admittedly I'm less active here than I used to be).

Reddit, whether intentionally or not, is largely viewed as being hugely favorited over the forums, and this upsets many forum contributors because Reddit is 90% memes, 10% discussion, whereas the forums is 90% discussion and 10% memes.

Food for thought.

[Veerdin-Wraith]

No for two reasons:

1) While I understand emote spam is a bit annoying for some people, personally? Of all the issues in this game regarding the aesthetics? Emote spam is probably right down the bottom of that list. I spam emotes, myself! No shame in saying that, some of them look pretty rad when you time them right! (Lawbringer's emote where he slams his poleaxe down and hits himself in the face? Cancel it just as his weapon hits the floor and now you have a cool "slamming the floor with your weapon" emote) And I honestly don't see them as anything other than innocent fun. I'd much rather people spam emotes than be toxic over the chat or do other "enraging" things.

2) Being unable to cancel emotes means that if you accidently hit the emote key when you're trying to do something else would leave you stuck in the animation. I shouldn't need to tell you why this is bad in a game that's so heavily reliant on being mobile. This would also be bad for in-combat emotes, as you could accidently use one and die mid-combat. Sure, you could make it so getting hit or swinging your weapon or dodging cancels them, but all of those things cost you something (health or stamina) and personally I don't like the idea of getting punished just because I accidently hit the emote key.

HOWEVER...

I will say that the most emote effects should not be spammable. Once you start emoting once, the entire effect should play out independently of the emote. The only exception would be effects that are "designed" to be spammed, like the Love Shower. But other ones like the fireworks and stuff? They shouldn't be spammable.

[bob333e]

Eric Pope personally posted this to the Reddit; https://www.reddit.com/r/forhonor/co...h_devs_to_you/
It wasn't re-posted here in any capacity as far as I'm aware (admittedly I'm less active here than I used to be).

Reddit, whether intentionally or not, is largely viewed as being hugely favorited over the forums, and this upsets many forum contributors because Reddit is 90% memes, 10% discussion, whereas the forums is 90% discussion and 10% memes.

Well, ****.

Last time I [[extremely briefly]] surfed the For Honor Reddit, it gave me both diarrhea and fever after I saw Eric post that buffalo/cow Warden skin video and fully adopting (and making real) a meme which was thrown directly at him in the subreddit.

Now this.

He may delight in making fun of the game, but a good chunk of the playerbase, especially those who frequent this forum, do not. I understand one artist worked off-time on that cow animation and that it's not like he did that at the expense of some bug fix he was working on; that's not the issue. The issue is that the devs, and Eric, are happily nurturing memes and cultivating meme culture inside the game.

I'd like to wager that most of the real playerbase, are over here. Not redditors. Not the brain-dead 14year-old kids who just can't seem to find their meme fix on 9gag and 4chan and just want to be fed with memes through anything they interact with, both in person and online.

Alright, they got their memes, then what? next year they'll move on when the next big hit title is released. They'll go chomp at something else, clog deep their teeth and fangs, and beg and cry loudly for memes. And more memes. They won't stop.

Where does that leave For Honor at. It already reached the point of no return and should Eric continue down that path without pulling some brakes, the For Honor we are playing now will be long gone. And then it'll lose its real playerbase. The bunch of us, possibly a few hundreds or maybe a couple thousand players, who were drawn to this game because of its brutal, gritty, serious and hard nature.

So far he doesn't seem to care.

It was memes, that are negatively impacting the Faction War and inadvertedly pissing off a lot of players who are Vikings and Samurai. Knights, too. I know I am. Faction War is jumbled into a mess mostly because one Faction isn't playing the Faction War at all most times. And it just happens it's the Faction I belong to.

It was memes, that gave birth to several youtube channels whose sole purpose became salt-mining for the keks, and encouraging that sort of behavior community-wide.

It was memes, that encouraged the devs to add fireworks, rainbows, hearts.

It was memes, that drove the devs to copy memes as-is from various sources and implement them into emotes and executions. And further drive the seriousness of this game further downhill.

It was memes, that discourage the devs from releasing outfits, patterns, and symbols that bear actual meaning to the respective Factions. Redditors don't care because all they want is memes, so why work hard on that. They can come up with some Van Gogh recycles at the last hour and release those (at a high price).

It was memes, that discourage the devs from producing actual new armors because why invest in something that's headed in the complete polar opposite direction (gritty and serious nature), when most of their "audience" wants to jerk off on memes.

Can someone tell him to check this forum at some point. Open his eyes a bit. Not everyone wants a meme every 5mins.