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    Kensei hate?

    Everybody’s mad now that Kensei actually has a superior dodge. When every other character has superior guard break abilities. Quit messaging me after fights.
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    A lot of the frustration with Kensei likely stems from the influx of players playing him after his rework. While Kensei is certainly strong, players are likely still figuring out the best ways to deal with Kensei when playing their favorite heroes.

    That said, hate mail tends to happen. I once got hate mail after a duel...and I was the one who lost.

    If the messages become too much, be sure to report them for harassment and send any evidence along to the support team.
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    Originally Posted by UbiJurassic Go to original post
    A lot of the frustration with Kensei likely stems from the influx of players playing him after his rework. While Kensei is certainly strong, players are likely still figuring out the best ways to deal with Kensei when playing their favorite heroes.

    That said, hate mail tends to happen. I once got hate mail after a duel...and I was the one who lost.

    If the messages become too much, be sure to report them for harassment and send any evidence along to the support team.
    Same thing happened to me last night lol. Sore winners? I started playing the game a few weeks before the rework and with only him I’m level 5 level 5 kensei so I’m by no means a master but pretty damn competent against any character. I just find it funny players using other characters talk about nerfing kenseis one superior move. And for the messages i just had to throw that in there I got 3 last night haha
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    Originally Posted by RealNo1shooter Go to original post
    Same thing happened to me last night lol. Sore winners? I started playing the game a few weeks before the rework and with only him I’m level 5 level 5 kensei so I’m by no means a master but pretty damn competent against any character. I just find it funny players using other characters talk about nerfing kenseis one superior move. And for the messages i just had to throw that in there I got 3 last night haha
    Some people just can't humbly take their win. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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    I'd say my frustration with Kensei is that he has no weakness. Fast AF with attacks, tons of mix ups, high damage, mobility, and worst of all HA...no idea why he needs HA... and his side dash should be a light so he thinks twice about spamming it. Keep it same speed but it should do light dmg with the risk of being punished for spam ability. HA on him is the worst part I think.
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    Originally Posted by Cito2009 Go to original post
    I'd say my frustration with Kensei is that he has no weakness. Fast AF with attacks, tons of mix ups, high damage, mobility, and worst of all HA...no idea why he needs HA... and his side dash should be a light so he thinks twice about spamming it. Keep it same speed but it should do light dmg with the risk of being punished for spam ability. HA on him is the worst part I think.
    Kensei has had HA since release. The only difference is they removed HA from his zone and instead gave him HA in his light finishers. Almost every attack in kenseis kit was slowed down during reworks, his lights all received reduced damage while his heavies remained the same except his first and second too heavy in a chain.

    His dodge attacks were arguably better before the rework as they were light attacks and as such caused a light recovery. That meant in a multiplayer hank kensei could dodge attack while switching between opponents faster and more seamlessly.

    If kensei didn't have HA on his finishers (all side heavy finishers had HA always only light finishers are different now) he would always be knocked out of any attack with a light. Especially when his kit is centered around soft feints, meaning much more delay from initial input to attack landing, he would never be able to use his soft feints.

    I am a 41 Kensei and I put all of that except one before season 5. I think he is more viable at all tiers of play, and I think new players will be able to pick him up much easier now. However, he is absolutely low A tier nothing more. Which is fine with me. Just saying, his moves are so slow that if you can delay your responses a little and not over react you will never have issues with kensei.
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    Yeah, well a lot of characters have to deal being knocked around. I've been playing orochi and I'm always getting batted around. HA I can see for slow moving and slow swinging characters, kensei moves and attacks plenty fast. I've lost so many fights cause the other guy has HA and I don't, it comes down to that a lot. Maybe the lag comp thing will help defending with blocks/parry/deflect. I find HA my biggest issue fighting those types of characters. I'd think LB would have HA over kensei.
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    Originally Posted by UbiJurassic Go to original post
    A lot of the frustration with Kensei likely stems from the influx of players playing him after his rework. While Kensei is certainly strong, players are likely still figuring out the best ways to deal with Kensei when playing their favorite heroes.

    That said, hate mail tends to happen. I once got hate mail after a duel...and I was the one who lost.

    If the messages become too much, be sure to report them for harassment and send any evidence along to the support team.
    I just have an issue with your dodge attack. as a highlander main I really can't beat good kenseis that also know the highlander mu. I just gave up on the mu itself though and just pick conqueror to deal with you guys lol.
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    Originally Posted by RenegadeTX2000 Go to original post
    I just have an issue with your dodge attack. as a highlander main I really can't beat good kenseis that also know the highlander mu. I just gave up on the mu itself though and just pick conqueror to deal with you guys lol.

    Highlander is stupid powerful with unblockables. Highlander is very predictable (like raider imo) but I know exactly how your gonna win either a 3 x heavy attack or in raiders case stamina drain run to the unblockable 3rd heavy. **** always gets me still. Nobody has disagreed with my point that kensei gb is Dog ***t comparative to any character but everybody complains about the heavy dash attack when kensei has superior dodge . It is what it is I guess . FIGHT!
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    I only have the Kensei problem because Kensei nullifies Highlanders offensive form. Hard to dodge kensei's attack and plus he has massive range that can knock me out of the stance. and if i dodge his dodge attack, i can only punish with offensive light, he actually has enough time to dodge my kick or attack option after dodge. I only get a 10 damage punish if I actually dodge his dodge attack.

    If I start in OF stance he outranges me and beats me to the punch.

    If I pressure him he can nullify my options with a dodge attack.

    If I try and bait his dodge attack he has enough time to go into his dodge animation and decide whether or not I followed through with my pursuit and he has the option to go through with dodge attack or not at all...

    If I get the GB, i only get 15 damage off a light or go for 25 dmg zone that drains my stamina to the point he can pressure me before I'm able to be offensive again.

    he has faster attacks and better zone in Neutral.

    He nullifies my kick mix up with dodge attack completely.

    I'm forced to fight in Defensive stance most of the time to where I become the worst character in the game by being in DEF stance.

    It's a bad match up lol and there's a TON of Kenseis running around so I just CP with Conqueror just to end him.
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