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There, that's my suggestion. Ubisoft you very cleary favor some classes over others. You blatantly ignore obvious faults in this game. Take for example you "reworked" kensei and completely ignored lawbringer. At the same time you buffed beserker. What a surprise you felt assassin's needed more attention. Now I play dungeons and dragons a lot, my favorite class is a fighter. When Imy the dungeon master... I DON'T GIVE THE PLAYER WHO'S A FIGHTER EVERY ABILITY HE WANTS. Jess I get you made assassin's creed but on some level or another you have to admit that you're the dungeon master giving the rogue player more than the other players. STOP, make the lower tier classes equal.
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While I agree the game isn't balanced totally, you also must remember for honor is the first of it's kind. It doesn't know exactly the game it is yet. It has to learn and adapt. I feel the devs do their best to try and satisfy the needs of their gamers. But what may mean balance for you, may not mean balance for many others. I don't believe the devs ever imagined that players would reach the level of mastery over the game that people have. As the players evolve, so must the game. But realistically, this is the most balanced the game has ever been. Every character has a place. Even heroes that people consider low tier are viable. When ranked came out I was beating centurions(who were insanely op at the time) in the finals of tournaments with a berserker. You just have to find your niche character and practice your *** off and there's nothing you can't achieve with them. I've gotten my *** handed to me by every character and vice versa. No game has ever been in a perfectly balanced state where every single character is viable at the same time. Games go through meta changes and different phases. Thats just the way it is.
And you can't say that assassin's needed more attention. They "reworked" 3 characters of all different classes. A vanguard, heavy, and assassin. And the assassin didn't even really get a rework. Just a slight change to feint light speed and a change in heavy armor. The unblockables suck.
And in terms of assassin's being high tier, I would say only shaman and pk are top tier. Berserker sits in the middle and most people agree that orochi is low tier. I think he's average but that's just my opinion.
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"What means balance for you may not mean balance for others." No balance precisely means even. And it's the scales are weighted. dps is a number not an opinion. And really the didn't rework conq they gave him a little more to one of his abilities. Kensei, yeah, vanguard *cough* really samurai assassin. And even here youre basically telling me to git gud. There are classes I play were I generally win as. I fully admit in some of the classes I play they have bs abilities they shouldn't have. The dishonesty in this community is also a toxic problem. Each characters have a set of moves, just some of these sets have more moves as well as moves that are more useful than other heroes move sets.
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What I meant by your meaning of balance may not be the same as mine is that some people may feel that a specific move can be overpowered, while others may not feel that way. So there has to be a balance. And the conq got a full rework. All of his properties changes. His full block changed. He got a new move. His zone changed. Same with kensei who I personally think is the best character in the game. I just disagree with you that assassin's are overpowered. They just have annoying moves. If you struggle against them, it doesn't mean they're op. I personally struggle against heavies. Shugoki and conqueror are very difficult for me to fight. But I wouldn't call them overpowered. I just gotta figure out what I'm doing wrong.
I'm not saying for you to git gud. I wouldn't belittle your perspective. I can just disagree. But I also wouldn't say that most assassin's have an easily exploited move except shaman. Berserker and orochi don't have any exploitable moves or gimmicks. Berserker was low tier since release. He needed a change. And he still isn't that great.
And if anything, your original point is that you wouldn't give the player everything they want. Then reference assassin's. The assassin rework was literally the smallest and they didn't give berserker mains what they even asked for. It's the kensei and conq that got everything people wanted lol
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Lol, you are straight up delusional. You actual just said beserker is low tier. You are being really dishonest right now. And again, specific moves aren't overpowered the argument I'm making is that they give other classes more tools than other classes. This is a God damn fact. Just admitt you want the came to be in your favor.
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Your either don't follow the devs stream
As they have said several times all og heros will get a rework they have only done 3 so far or your pissed they chose heros that were struggling over lb like kensie conq and zerk before the reworks there kits were lacking all I can say is wait but imo warden needs a rework before lb
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The devs say one thing and do another. I trust them at this point as much as I trust my dog with a leg of ham. None of those heroes were struggling especially not in comparison to LB that's why I'm pissed. For a straight year the refused to acknowledge their bias for certain characters. To even suggest kensei needed a rework over LB is insanity. And I'm not accepting the conq rework as a rework, they barely touched him and he's still not viable. Giving him a massively telegraphed unblockable is a stupid and pointless update. So yeah the devs have "reworks" planned and by reworks they mean they're still going to keep their favorite heroes in the top tier.
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"...suggest kensei needed a rework over LB is insanity". Really? Most of the player base generally agreed that the Kensei was the worst character before the rework. Berzerker and Conquered were also at the bottom. While I personally feel they have slightly overbuffed the Berzerker, I also agree that this game is more balanced now then it has ever been. The Devs have delivered on everything they've promised so far so I don't know why you wouldn't believe them. I think the LB needs some tweaks, but I think that the Valkyrie and Orchi are the most in need for a rework at this point, so I hope they are next.
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You're delusional if you think I'm lying. Could you please give an example of a time that the Devs failed to deliver something they said they would deliver? I'm asking for a specific article or video published by Ubisoft where a Dev said something was in the works and now it isn't. As for openers, the LB has shove. That is an opener. It might not be a good opener, but it is an opener. The Orchi has no opener. The Valkyrie only has the Shield bash, which can only come after another attack. So it's not really an opener in the strictest sense, but I guess it's better than nothing. Look I agree, the LB needs some changes, but never has he been considered the worst in the game.
