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[Charmzzz]

First of all, assassins have a lot of things they can spam without any real danger. I saw Berses, who feint like thousands attacks per sec and on HL, Warden and Nobushi I just can't do anything. If I react any way they land attack or parry.
Than I saw PK, who overtop the turtle meta. She just wait you attack, then dodge, then light spam.
You said you could dodge the same attack on Warden and PK, but like Warden what do you do next? Shoulderbash? 90% of assassins dodged it and than free GB, good luck next time. Do light? It's extremly slow and can't be a chain with dodge (like PK two spikes, when second bleed).
On assassins you have no troubles with feint spamers, cause you can dodge, deflect, intrupt with the light and so. Assassins have a lot of versatile of dodge. You can do shield dush on Glad, and it's more way fuster, than Conq.
For now assassins have a lot of tools to deal with every game situation and tones of damage. Reworked Bers, Shaman and Glad just simply stupid OP in 4v4 mode. When I met turtle who parry any attack, I just spam foot attack on Glad. Only assassins can dodge it. LB, Warden and others just useless in this moment.
I'm not saying that Ubi should lower assassins health, but statment, that assassins have any disadvantage are ridiculous.

And I use Warden example, cause I love this guy, like to play on him. And I have a lot of time to compare him with assassins.

Gosh there is so much wrong in your post, I even don't know where to start. But I will try:

- "Spam without danger": what do you mean? 500ms Attacks? Warden Top Light and Zone are 500ms. Spam them, too? "Spamming" attacks only catches noobs that are unable to guard switch or parry.
- HL has Countercrush on all directions. Warden has it on Top. Warden can Dodge into SB mixup. Nobushi can Hidden Stance or that backstep attack move. If someone spams feints, just switch your guard and WAIT maybe!? He will be near OOS pretty fast, then it is your turn to attack.
- Yes, when I dodge an Attack with Warden I will go into SB mixup 90% of the time. But I will use the MIXUP, cancel into GB or feint it into Top Light or GB are the way to go. After you conditioned your enemy that you won't release the normal SB - you can do it occasionally and you will catch him.
- Feint spammers are even a bigger problem on Assassins as your guard decays and you have to refresh it. Interrupt with Light? You can do that on every Character.
- Tons of damage? You should have a look here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...Kgc/edit#gid=0
- Everybody can Dodge the Toe Stab of Glad from neutral. Assassins DO NOT DODGE FASTER. They only have a slightly better recovery from dodging than other Characters.
- I am doing fine on Warden. L2P issue, sorry.

[SpaceJim12]

"Spam without danger": what do you mean? 500ms Attacks? Warden Top Light and Zone are 500ms. Spam them, too? "Spamming" attacks only catches noobs that are unable to guard switch or parry.

Well, I really wanna see you pro gameplay against PK spaming her light mixed with dodge and zone-cancel-zone.

If someone spams feints, just switch your guard and WAIT maybe!? He will be near OOS pretty fast, then it is your turn to attack.

Well, can't see any Zercs that have trouble with stamina on high gear stats. For clear understanding, I play 4v4 mode and prefer it. Don't like duels. And in dominion, you could try to wait someone with 180 gear OOS, but someone kill you in the back earlier. Stamina useless with that much gear stats for it.

Yes, when I dodge an Attack with Warden I will go into SB mixup 90% of the time. But I will use the MIXUP, cancel into GB or feint it into Top Light or GB are the way to go.

Let me using here your own words "only catches noobs". And if you play with assassins who have skill, he will dodge your BS from dodge faster than you'll say "assassin"

Feint spammers are even a bigger problem on Assassins as your guard decays and you have to refresh it.

Dodge light solve all problems here

You should have a look here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...Kgc/edit#gid=0

I don't say about real damage from direct attack, but % of landed attack will be higher. At least for me, if compare Warden and Glad.And, for example, if one firs hit will reach target on Zerc, you will land whole zone hits without any trouble.

Everybody can Dodge the Toe Stab of Glad from neutral

Again, maybe in Duel, where you stay in front of your opponent, wait that move and ready. In dominion, where you always can be target of gunk, and Glad came to your point it's different situation. Can't see a lot of people on heavy classes who easily dodge from it.

I am doing fine on Warden. L2P issue, sorry.

Maybe cause you play only duels or play with noobs. I can't say I useless with Warden, but "doing fine" not what you can say now about this char.

[Charmzzz]

Well, I really wanna see you pro gameplay against PK spaming her light mixed with dodge and zone-cancel-zone.

Well, can't see any Zercs that have trouble with stamina on high gear stats. For clear understanding, I play 4v4 mode and prefer it. Don't like duels. And in dominion, you could try to wait someone with 180 gear OOS, but someone kill you in the back earlier. Stamina useless with that much gear stats for it.

Let me using here your own words "only catches noobs". And if you play with assassins who have skill, he will dodge your BS from dodge faster than you'll say "assassin"

Dodge light solve all problems here

I don't say about real damage from direct attack, but % of landed attack will be higher. At least for me, if compare Warden and Glad.And, for example, if one firs hit will reach target on Zerc, you will land whole zone hits without any trouble.

Again, maybe in Duel, where you stay in front of your opponent, wait that move and ready. In dominion, where you always can be target of gunk, and Glad came to your point it's different situation. Can't see a lot of people on heavy classes who easily dodge from it.

Maybe cause you play only duels or play with noobs. I can't say I useless with Warden, but "doing fine" not what you can say now about this char.

Add me ingame (Charmzzz), we are both playing on PC. We can do a Custom Game, you vs me - Duel or Dom with Bots. I don't care. You can also choose which Character I play, PK - Glad - Warden. I don't care either.

The only problem I have with PK's is when they dodge back all the time and wait for me to dodge forward so they can free hit with their Zone. But that is my fault tbh, because I am an "in your face PK".

[Redkey.]

Not so long ago I started to play Shinobi. Oh yes, how many hitpoints he has) Better ask devs hoe Cent have 110 Hp. Probably, they should scale down the character at least twice.

[Xil_h]

Don't forget the defense stat, which reduces damage. Something assassins do not really have

[Charmzzz]

Don't forget the defense stat, which reduces damage. Something assassins do not really have

You could equip Defense gear if you want to. And PK has the "Thick Skin" lvl 2 feat which reduces incoming damage very 10 seconds or something.

[SpaceJim12]

Add me ingame (Charmzzz), we are both playing on PC. We can do a Custom Game, you vs me - Duel or Dom with Bots. I don't care. You can also choose which Character I play, PK - Glad - Warden. I don't care either.

When I return to game, I'll probably do that.
Strange I never saw you in games before, community not so big.

[Charmzzz]

When I return to game, I'll probably do that.
Strange I never saw you in games before, community not so big.

Played only Dominion in the last months. Duel was too much of a staring contest for me before Season 5. Profile: https://fhtracker.com/profile/pc/Charmzzz

[SpaceJim12]

Played only Dominion in the last months.

I played Dominion only all the time. For me medival fight can't be dueling isolated from masses

[SpaceJim12]

Profile: https://fhtracker.com/profile/pc/Charmzzz

Wow, 20k kills for 11k deathes. Can say on statistic you're better than me. I got like...4-5k kills from game realised.=)