Whats the sense of a charachter like highlander? | Forums

[Kahuf1]

I dont think Highlander is useless in 1v1. I main him, play only 1v1 and its rly fun to play against most of heroes (yea, lightspamers are struggles).

Devs tunr this game to unblocable softfeintable hyperarmour game. Every new hero have more and more, every reworked hero have again more. This is probably trend and this is reason, why i dont play 4v4, cause 3v1 is not fun for me.

[Vakris_One]

there are tons of threads about all the unblockables spam, obviously its not just highlander. focus on him? what if there is two of them? what if comes from behind and in 2 hits he kills you? thats the problems. its just how the character is made that doesnt make any sense to me. next to useless in 1v1 and destroyer (not in a positive way, nor in a skillful way) in 4v4

Well, I guess you can choose to ignore everything I just suggested to address the core of the problem which is unblockables in 4v4s and just continue to focus on your pet hate for Highlander.

I've offered a game-wide solution but if you're determined to be short sighted and just bash on a single character then I'll leave you to it as I don't much care for unproductive complaining.

[swiss_soldier_1]

Well, I guess you can choose to ignore everything I just suggested to address the core of the problem which is unblockables in 4v4s and just continue to focus on your pet hate for Highlander.

I've offered a game-wide solution but if you're determined to be short sighted and just bash on a single character then I'll leave you to it as I don't much care for unproductive complaining.

are you stupid? i just said that there are already plenty of threads, one started by myself, that highlight the 4v4 ganking/unblockable/hyper armor problem.

here it's about speaking about a character that its built FROM ITS FOUNDATIONS in a wrong way. to hopefully discourage new characters like this

[UbiInsulin]

Swiss_soldier is right in saying that this thread addresses a different topic than the other ganking threads. Whether or not you agree with them is a different matter, but please just offer your counterpoints and leave it at that.

[RenegadeTX2000]

Highlander demands space to operate in 1v1's to get his kit flowing, anybody that can rush him down beats him. The goal is to smother highlander and there's nothing much he can do about it. When he's from a distance it's all about playing the spacing game, that's all there is to it. He's not gonna be running from you anytime soon anyway because his running speed is trash and if you encounter him you can either disengage or actually deal with him, while he's focused only on trying to fight you since he can't dictate the pace of when and where he wants to fight.

Highlander could just use a few tweaks to make him actually perform consistently.

Offensive lights whiffing<<<I have plenty of videos of that happening and dying for it sometimes.

Celtic curse whiff

Offensive kick interrupting attacks mid swing which doesn't grant him baylors might to which he gets parried.

How bad his running attack is, doesn't do anything useful, I've talked with every highlander main and none have found a use for it, nor actually use it in games. If there was a move count, this would be one of if not the least used move in the entire game.

His armor on heavies in neutral take forever to activate... I feel like his side heavies which do 35 dmg should actually have armor activation faster then his top heavy and of course harder to GB him out of a side heavy in defensive stance.

The longer you are in defensive stance, the worse it is for you and the closer you are to losing against anybody. I think Highlander in defense stance alone is the worst character in the game.

Offense stance is great but can be very inconsistent at times as mentioned above.

I could go on but i'll stop here. I could go on with every character honestly. I'm not biased towards my main since I pretty much have a handle on every character in the game and understand their concept fully.

[Knight_Raime]

Considering highlander has to both enter offensive form and throw his toss or his kick in order to get that 40 damage for free it's fine. You should be acting to focus on him. and keep him out of offensive form.

"but what if their are 2?" Why stop there? lets just say there is 4 highlanders and demand a nerf because of that situation?
They absolutely can't balance the game around every possible situation. By your logic we should nerf every goki into the ground because you could have 2 goki's trying to hug you to death.
Or have 2 lawbringers that constantly long arm you while their team takes turns beating you like a pinata.
I can go on.

4v4 is never going to feel fair for several reasons. One of which is the fact that you can have multiples of the same hero on one team.
Even if heros were a lot less "spammy" (which I contend to be BS because season 1 had it's fair share of bs spammy things) 4v4 is still centered around ganking and spamming your safe moves.

Until the devs make a serious effort to include things in the game that discourage ganks it's going to be like this with a hero. Highlander is far and away from the first hero to be called BS in a team fight. and he won't be the last. Nerfing his damage isn't going to solve the real problem and will only hurt his performance in 1v1. Of all the things that's been complained about HL's balor might "spam" has probably been the least bad thing "spammed" in 4v4.

[Kahuf1]

.......I think Highlander in defense stance alone is the worst character in the game. ......

I dont like cuting some words from context but this from Renegade is pure true. Thats reazon why I even try to push here idea of some defensive opener like "push" enemy away from highlanders face with no damage, no stamina damage, no guaranteed damage after, just push enemy away and fastflow to offstance, cause fast enemy in highlanders face dont allow him even light wiffing...

The "push" should look like off stance emote. One handed push enemy...

But sorry guys, u complain on highlander on this post, but this is my look on highlander.

[RenegadeTX2000]

if highlander gets smacked with a nerf. I'm hopping on shaman faster than flash.

[Thorstein31]

Highlander is solid, the devs did a great job polishing his kit, hope they ignore those nerf this nerf that topics

[Protos_88]

haha yah rly grat job.... so u play higlander heh? this game have 0 balance... hehe and devs?? devs know it ...