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  1. #21
    Originally Posted by Knight_Raime Go to original post
    I mean whiff into either dodge attack or zone is risky as fudge for the zerk. as the dodge would equal a light parry punish. and i'm pretty sure some parts of zerks zone count as a light parry punish. Even then the zone is still a stamina intensive investment either way.

    Parry heavy into zone is strong yes. But not insanely. as other heros have nearly the same damage punish on heavy parries with usually less stamina cost. So. annoying? sure. oppressive? I personally don't think so.
    I think his heavy parry off zone should be fixed. What's the point in using Zerkers parry attack if you have that? If you get a light parry go for heavy, if you get a heavy parry go for zone. Yeah i get you on the Stamina cost of it but it still shouldn't be a thing for somebody like zerker that can kill you just as fast without it.
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    Originally Posted by RenegadeTX2000 Go to original post
    I think his heavy parry off zone should be fixed. What's the point in using Zerkers parry attack if you have that? If you get a light parry go for heavy, if you get a heavy parry go for zone. Yeah i get you on the Stamina cost of it but it still shouldn't be a thing for somebody like zerker that can kill you just as fast without it.
    I mean. I wouldn't be sad if it was gone. Just expressing I personally don't have a big issue with it.
    specially when someone like shaman can do the same thing.
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    I've said it before, and I'll say it again. There is no other game like For Honor that has Samurai in it. That's the one reason why I still play. And I play vs AI, so at least I'm not subjected to the childish behavior of the tryhards. But I'm still forced to watch as the Vikings with their population boost claim 40+ territories every other round, while my 4-inactive players-to-1-active players Samurai are constantly struggling to reclaim, defend, OR attack. I'm on the losing side of every war now, and the one war we did win was because it was handed to us. We didn't earn it, like we almost did in Season 1. Maybe the makers of Deliverance can make a feudal Japan style game so I can get my fill. Until then, I'm stuck here.
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    Originally Posted by Jazz117Volkov Go to original post
    A few thoughts before I head off.

    Typically I don't play games that want to be esports; if nothing else the audience of those titles give me a migraine--the Billy Mitchells of the world--but For Honor was offering a dozen things I've wanted in a game since forever. But over the year since the game's release it's become very apparent that all the things appealing to me about the game were not the developer's priority. Not in the slightest. The personality of the heroes, the lore and the setting, the values and style of each faction, and content that would allow me to experience these things alongside a friend or two.

    It's painful to know that my proverbial $60 is worth less than the person who just wants to grief other players, "rub salt in their wounds", and trash talk their way through a twitch stream. Their presence in this community is valued more than mine. And maybe players with interests like mine really are so far in the minority that it isn't worth paying attention too. But then I see this forum and the people who keep leaving are players it at least seems have common interests. So I don't know.

    But there it is, those are my thoughts. I'm going to dial it back and maybe revisit some other games for a while. If the Warden update is really cool I'll come back and check it out, but for the moment dealing with Conq's instant recoveries is something else I can live without.
    Yet another prominent name on here, and a friend at that too, having gotten fed up with the current state of the game. This is just sad and it speaks volumes.

    I understand and relate with what you said. A break is much needed. A break from this downward spiral snowballing itself further down a deep, dark abyss. And no telling what's on the bottom. Might be fresh untouched water, might be nothing but bare stone to crash on, or might be rock-solid, razor-sharp crystals that will shred everything apart. One good outcome, two bad outcomes.

    The reworks are drawing the final straw for me as well. I've been already fed up with a myriad of things.

    - The incessant, unfair, ridiculously imbalanced and downright greedy grinding system, because you got this game for free in a bag of Kelloggs Corn Flakes

    - RNG dominating everything, I bet in Russia they call the game For Roulette

    - Oh so you spent 10mins against a strong premade in Tribute and you lost by a hair? here's a "no loot found" screen for ya

    - Terrible and laughable player progression and reward systems. But hey you can waste all your Salvage away on 2 reputation levels, what more do you want? here's a neon glow outfit for your troubles

    - Mediocre-to-useless inventory management system. Never store gear, because then our RNG loot will mean nothing to you and you'd have more peace of mind which is a big no-no

    - No in-game blacksmith or smithing forge to craft gear, we decide what you wear with our RNG server, now shut up and go to your room

    - You want to apply Change Look to your Refined gear? Change Look now costs 1,000 Steel because we're generous, we can't even believe we've lowered the price this much

    - No in-game gear trading system between players. You don't want it, dismantle it, you're not allowed to turn it into another man's treasure

    - Ruined hero aesthetics with each new Van Gogh outfit and lame, childish out-of-place effects, priced ridiculously high of course, but you can't complain, this is how they see their playerbase after all

    - Customization at large still a basic thing, limited, with way too many duplicates here and there just to fill things up and make it look "jam-packed"

    - Moar spikes plz, I like them, can't fight properly without them, I need them to git gud and parry 200ms unblockables

    - Oh you can't react to 200ms unblockables? too bad then, this game isn't for you, we don't care how long you've stayed around since before release

    - We equally don't care how we sold you an entirely different concept before the alphas then launched a different planet of a game then turned it into a different solar system by season 5

    - Why even give you new armor, nah, we'll just rehash common tier gear into god-tier blackness, we never forget the spikes. New armor takes longer than a year!

    - Meme culture worming its way inside the game and killing it from the inside out (thanks, Reddit)

    - They remove mass-wanted modes like Test Your Metal but hey here's Ranked Dominion with a 10% keksie boostie so you can shut the fcuk up

    - Dance Of Death returns as temporary again, because we enjoy pissing you off again after we take it away again and make you beg for it again

    - We can't make Apollyon's voice an option to choose in the settings, sorry, it would split the playerbase too much

    - Ranked Modes still a joke, their reward systems a joke, because they're inherently Circus Modes but they have no DATA on that naming convention yet

    - Your rank still means nothing, maybe you can go boast about it to yourself in the mirror or something

    - The joke of the century of a matchmaker, "find another opponent" equals "I'm putting you again with the same opponent just to piss you off and force you to close app"

    - Faction War being nothing more than a Den filler topic and they refuse to overhaul it, here's two castle models to decorate it

    - Choice of Faction still means nothing, no Faction Loyalty bonus/boost or anything. You're a Knight who's secretly a Viking and you have Samurai beliefs. Hell you're not even a medieval Knight, half your Faction are Romans and Greeks, deal with it.

    - They refuse to talk about a 1v1v1 Faction Brawl or an 8v8 Siege Mode, now that "servers" are in place

    - Servers have introduced even more lag and now you can't even tell who has red wifi icons because almost everyone is marked green now, yet they lag

    - Lag comp is soonand even then, no telling how efficient it will be, it will probably need half a year of adjusting and DATA

    - These dedicated servers are missing the core features of dedicated servers, like choosing region, seeing pings/latencies, etc

    - Zerker and Conq became bigger cancers than Shaman, so now you can finally shut the fcuk up about Shaman. We put a Shaman on your Shaman so you can Shaman while you Shaman.

    - 4v4 modes still horribly imbalanced and poorly designed and they still refuse to address the feats, because they're part of the non-existent lore so they can't just remove them. People are enjoying what's been given to them anyway, so why put an effort in improving it. They're happy with the empty, dented Pepsi cans, licking tiny dropplets of Pepsi from the dirtied opening.

    - The shortened inactivity kicker is only really kicking innocent people from matches

    - Command input responsivity discrepancies

    - Controller vibration detection discrepancies

    - The disappearing weapons bug is still here

    - Adding insult to injury by releasing a Starter Edition where newcomers will grind even more for Steel and will get baited into more microtransactions

    - Price of things in-game slowly going up further while Steel gain remains the same (because fcuk you)

    - Oh you were never meant to unlock all heroes or outfit them all with good-looking patterns and ornaments and executions, so fcuk you twice

    - They likely won't support a full-fledged Singleplayer with expansion packs, why should they, go get catapulted in Dominion and git gud, make sure you use that museum decoration thing of a sword when you kill a player, spam the duckface instagram emote afterwards for extra renown

    - We can't give you a deeper, better-crafted lore because we haven't yet figured out how to charge Steel for it

    - We ca----

    .......

    Why am I still playing this game? oh yeah, I won't last long either. I'll wait till end of season 5 and whether a faint glimmer of hope will show itself. But I'll most likely show myself the door instead. And I'm certainly not recommending this game to anybody.

    I won't be making a thread about it. I think I've already stated everything above (of course there's more but don't feel like occupying an entire page), and I believe a silent departure hits harder.

    I hope you at least check back in here once in a while and keep in touch. I know I will, still got some connections on here.

    Godspeed, my friend. May we soon break free of this pain.
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  5. #25
    Originally Posted by Fady117 Go to original post
    Yet another prominent name on here, and a friend at that too, having gotten fed up with the current state of the game. This is just sad and it speaks volumes.

    I understand and relate with what you said. A break is much needed. A break from this downward spiral snowballing itself further down a deep, dark abyss. And no telling what's on the bottom. Might be fresh untouched water, might be nothing but bare stone to crash on, or might be rock-solid, razor-sharp crystals that will shred everything apart. One good outcome, two bad outcomes.

    The reworks are drawing the final straw for me as well. I've been already fed up with a myriad of things.

    - The incessant, unfair, ridiculously imbalanced and downright greedy grinding system, because you got this game for free in a bag of Kelloggs Corn Flakes

    - RNG dominating everything, I bet in Russia they call the game For Roulette

    - Oh so you spent 10mins against a strong premade in Tribute and you lost by a hair? here's a "no loot found" screen for ya

    - Terrible and laughable player progression and reward systems. But hey you can waste all your Salvage away on 2 reputation levels, what more do you want? here's a neon glow outfit for your troubles

    - Mediocre-to-useless inventory management system. Never store gear, because then our RNG loot will mean nothing to you and you'd have more peace of mind which is a big no-no

    - No in-game blacksmith or smithing forge to craft gear, we decide what you wear with our RNG server, now shut up and go to your room

    - You want to apply Change Look to your Refined gear? Change Look now costs 1,000 Steel because we're generous, we can't even believe we've lowered the price this much

    - No in-game gear trading system between players. You don't want it, dismantle it, you're not allowed to turn it into another man's treasure

    - Ruined hero aesthetics with each new Van Gogh outfit and lame, childish out-of-place effects, priced ridiculously high of course, but you can't complain, this is how they see their playerbase after all

    - Customization at large still a basic thing, limited, with way too many duplicates here and there just to fill things up and make it look "jam-packed"

    - Moar spikes plz, I like them, can't fight properly without them, I need them to git gud and parry 200ms unblockables

    - Oh you can't react to 200ms unblockables? too bad then, this game isn't for you, we don't care how long you've stayed around since before release

    - We equally don't care how we sold you an entirely different concept before the alphas then launched a different planet of a game then turned it into a different solar system by season 5

    - Why even give you new armor, nah, we'll just rehash common tier gear into god-tier blackness, we never forget the spikes. New armor takes longer than a year!

    - Meme culture worming its way inside the game and killing it from the inside out (thanks, Reddit)

    - They remove mass-wanted modes like Test Your Metal but hey here's Ranked Dominion with a 10% keksie boostie so you can shut the fcuk up

    - Dance Of Death returns as temporary again, because we enjoy pissing you off again after we take it away again and make you beg for it again

    - We can't make Apollyon's voice an option to choose in the settings, sorry, it would split the playerbase too much

    - Ranked Modes still a joke, their reward systems a joke, because they're inherently Circus Modes but they have no DATA on that naming convention yet

    - Your rank still means nothing, maybe you can go boast about it to yourself in the mirror or something

    - The joke of the century of a matchmaker, "find another opponent" equals "I'm putting you again with the same opponent just to piss you off and force you to close app"

    - Faction War being nothing more than a Den filler topic and they refuse to overhaul it, here's two castle models to decorate it

    - Choice of Faction still means nothing, no Faction Loyalty bonus/boost or anything. You're a Knight who's secretly a Viking and you have Samurai beliefs. Hell you're not even a medieval Knight, half your Faction are Romans and Greeks, deal with it.

    - They refuse to talk about a 1v1v1 Faction Brawl or an 8v8 Siege Mode, now that "servers" are in place

    - Servers have introduced even more lag and now you can't even tell who has red wifi icons because almost everyone is marked green now, yet they lag

    - Lag comp is soonand even then, no telling how efficient it will be, it will probably need half a year of adjusting and DATA

    - These dedicated servers are missing the core features of dedicated servers, like choosing region, seeing pings/latencies, etc

    - Zerker and Conq became bigger cancers than Shaman, so now you can finally shut the fcuk up about Shaman. We put a Shaman on your Shaman so you can Shaman while you Shaman.

    - 4v4 modes still horribly imbalanced and poorly designed and they still refuse to address the feats, because they're part of the non-existent lore so they can't just remove them. People are enjoying what's been given to them anyway, so why put an effort in improving it. They're happy with the empty, dented Pepsi cans, licking tiny dropplets of Pepsi from the dirtied opening.

    - The shortened inactivity kicker is only really kicking innocent people from matches

    - Command input responsivity discrepancies

    - Controller vibration detection discrepancies

    - The disappearing weapons bug is still here

    - Adding insult to injury by releasing a Starter Edition where newcomers will grind even more for Steel and will get baited into more microtransactions

    - Price of things in-game slowly going up further while Steel gain remains the same (because fcuk you)

    - Oh you were never meant to unlock all heroes or outfit them all with good-looking patterns and ornaments and executions, so fcuk you twice

    - They likely won't support a full-fledged Singleplayer with expansion packs, why should they, go get catapulted in Dominion and git gud, make sure you use that museum decoration thing of a sword when you kill a player, spam the duckface instagram emote afterwards for extra renown

    - We can't give you a deeper, better-crafted lore because we haven't yet figured out how to charge Steel for it

    - We ca----

    .......

    Why am I still playing this game? oh yeah, I won't last long either. I'll wait till end of season 5 and whether a faint glimmer of hope will show itself. But I'll most likely show myself the door instead. And I'm certainly not recommending this game to anybody.

    I won't be making a thread about it. I think I've already stated everything above (of course there's more but don't feel like occupying an entire page), and I believe a silent departure hits harder.

    I hope you at least check back in here once in a while and keep in touch. I know I will, still got some connections on here.

    Godspeed, my friend. May we soon break free of this pain.

    --- i feel that.. completely and everything u said and knowing, that this is a list like 1/5 of things, man could point out to disclose how cheated he feels about this game direction and" c0ckish devs on den "rubing salt to your wounds"

    I was expecting - - at least - - 50k "were sorry pack" for year 2 launch.. for everyone playing at least 1/2 a year and not throwing his controller thru TV.. That is what even lootmighty EA would do lol.

    But as you said we had got a fcnukin emote... For 7k of course.

    But u know what is worst than all of that? Literally no other game is like this within concept. Maan i do LOVE that, there are rumors of Star Wars lightsaber fighting oriented game, much like FH in development, but that is like 2-3 years to wait (huge star Wars fan myself) point is that if i quit for honor ( and i hope that it will not happen anytime soon) I may just as quit gaming completely, because there is no other game, i feel so personaly atached to my character :/
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    Originally Posted by GMG Peter Go to original post
    --- i feel that.. completely and everything u said and knowing, that this is a list like 1/5 of things, man could point out to disclose how cheated he feels about this game direction and" c0ckish devs on den "rubing salt to your wounds"

    I was expecting - - at least - - 50k "were sorry pack" for year 2 launch.. for everyone playing at least 1/2 a year and not throwing his controller thru TV.. That is what even lootmighty EA would do lol.

    But as you said we had got a fcnukin emote... For 7k of course.

    But u know what is worst than all of that? Literally no other game is like this within concept. Maan i do LOVE that, there are rumors of Star Wars lightsaber fighting oriented game, much like FH in development, but that is like 2-3 years to wait (huge star Wars fan myself) point is that if i quit for honor ( and i hope that it will not happen anytime soon) I may just as quit gaming completely, because there is no other game, i feel so personaly atached to my character :/
    Oh thanks for reading through. I'm sorry, I know I'm sounding negative, but it's only the bare truth, and it's eating away at my enthusiasm with this game.

    I agree, For Honor's combat system, as well as how my Warden finally looks like after 4 months straight of daily grinding, are essentially the two main reasons why I'm still playing this game. Sadly these two things get far overshadowed by.... nearly everything else.

    I wouldn't bet too much on Star Wars, the title is property of EA now I believe, or was it Disney? anyway, I wouldn't count on it. But we're definitely not seeing a game better at melee combat than For Honor. That is what is really killing me, and the others on here who are leaving one by one.
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    I wouldn't bet too much on Star Wars, the title is property of EA now I believe, or was it Disney? anyway, I wouldn't count on it. But we're definitely not seeing a game better at melee combat than For Honor. That is what is really killing me, and the others on here who are leaving one by one.
    Disney owns all of Star Wars (LucasFilm, LucasArts, Skywalker Sound etc.), but since they closed LucasArts largely on day 1, they merely license out the Star Wars franchise to other studios, among them EA who does Battlefront and some mobile **** too.

    But both you should just head on over to Steam and buy Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy. No ****ing way are they ever going to top that combat system.
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    Yeah ultimately owned by Disney and gaming licence in hands of EA is really a showdown of pure greed. But at least they make their §hit done.. In a year of playing battleftonts i had like two disconnects on 40player modes lol.

    Its not negative at all, I think it was righteous and point on. Guess since I am from Czech i will have to talk to KC developers about making ani online fighting game proper 🤔 just joking, dont know them personally 😀

    Also i really really wish that this time after timesnap is in, we got results!
    Bcs dedicated servers..... I mean are they really in? No lobby no info on ping etc and for me no improvement at all. Still more DC than actual game, nowadays mostly 00060000118 or something like that. At the start, in the middle, at the end of match, doesnt event matter. And shadowlobby like dozens of times a Day....
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    Originally Posted by Tundra 793 Go to original post
    Disney owns all of Star Wars (LucasFilm, LucasArts, Skywalker Sound etc.), but since they closed LucasArts largely on day 1, they merely license out the Star Wars franchise to other studios, among them EA who does Battlefront and some mobile **** too.

    But both you should just head on over to Steam and buy Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy. No ****ing way are they ever going to top that combat system.
    Oh howdy! a good username to spot on here.

    Yeah, I had heard EA owned proprietorship or something. Which is largely why I dumped all interest in Star Wars titles. Because I fcuking hate EA.

    I'll take your word for it and check out Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy, though I prefer console videogames rather than PC. I mostly play oldy classics on PC (can never have enough of them).
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    Originally Posted by Tundra 793 Go to original post
    Disney owns all of Star Wars (LucasFilm, LucasArts, Skywalker Sound etc.), but since they closed LucasArts largely on day 1, they merely license out the Star Wars franchise to other studios, among them EA who does Battlefront and some mobile **** too.

    But both you should just head on over to Steam and buy Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy. No ****ing way are they ever going to top that combat system.

    😍 i still play Jedi Academy on steam lol!!
    Movie battles were rocking, but i have now problems run MB on Mac :/ so i run vanilla game from time to time
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