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[Jakubi.]

I messaged some Ubi representatives (epi, zorro in September, noty in December, flowessence yesterday) some failproof detection and easy to implement detection methods which will detect the majority of MKb users.

I don't think they will (ever) respond as they probably have been urged from upper hand to not talk about this subject.

If we keep this thread going they'll eventually take notice.

[Mad_Dog8762]

It is cheating as no one should be REQUIRED to buy 3rd pary software in order to be competitive
That's the DEFINITION of online cheating

Acquiring 3rd party software to provide an advantage in game

[FindFixFinish]

These products are officially endorsed. So this problem probably won't go away.

Binding keys was beyond most gamers. Now they're using speed pads, are they? How ridiculous people are.

I can remember not that long ago when they couldn't give away those Belkin Nostromo speed pads. That's why Razer bought the license.

The first Belkin Nostromo I bought (Belkin was the company that made it) cost £20 in PC World around 2008.

But, the last Razer Orbweaver Chroma I bought (which is basically the same as the Belkin Nostromo) was £129.99. The build quality is worse than the Nostromo and I've already had it replaced once.

The TAC Pro is amazingly expensive at £125.00+ considering it's a crappy little console peripheral. But imagine how much cash the people who sell it are raking in. Fortunes.

It probably costs £5.00 a unit to make in China or Taiwan.

It's greed that's at the root of this problem. Gamers are being ripped off across the board.

A solution would be a regulating body that recognises games officially which would make it difficult for someone to come along and start exploiting gamers with dodgy apps and hardware.

[Kenny324410]

These products are officially endorsed. So this problem probably won't go away.

Binding keys was beyond most gamers. Now they're using speed pads, are they? How ridiculous people are.

I can remember not that long ago when they couldn't give away those Belkin Nostromo speed pads. That's why Razer bought the license.

The first Belkin Nostromo I bought (Belkin was the company that made it) cost £20 in PC World around 2008.

But, the last Razer Orbweaver Chroma I bought (which is basically the same as the Belkin Nostromo) was £129.99. The build quality is worse than the Nostromo and I've already had it replaced once.

The TAC Pro is amazingly expensive at £125.00+ considering it's a crappy little console peripheral. But imagine how much cash the people who sell it are raking in. Fortunes.

It probably costs £5.00 a unit to make in China or Taiwan.

It's greed that's at the root of this problem. Gamers are being ripped off across the board.

A solution would be a regulating body that recognises games officially which would make it difficult for someone to come along and start exploiting gamers with dodgy apps and hardware.

That’s whare ur wrong the hortack pro maybe officially endorsed from Sony but Ubisoft has it turned off completely you can’t just plug it In and play it’s desaple to use it you must bye a 3rd part un lissond prodicd that tricks the consol in to think it’s a normal PS4 pad so no matter if ur useing a lissond product at all ur still useing a 3rd party unlissod product to root round Ubisofts ban on the priffles witch is CHEATING

[FindFixFinish]

That’s whare ur wrong the hortack pro maybe officially endorsed from Sony but Ubisoft has it turned off completely you can’t just plug it In and play it’s desaple to use it you must bye a 3rd part un lissond prodicd that tricks the consol in to think it’s a normal PS4 pad so no matter if ur useing a lissond product at all ur still useing a 3rd party unlissod product to root round Ubisofts ban on the priffles witch is CHEATING

Wot.

[Kenny324410]

Wot.

All devices apart from the normal PS4 pad is disabled bye Ubisoft you can’t just plug in a mouse and keyboard and it will work official or not the horta tack pro is disabled you have to get a 3rd party product that plugs in and tricks the consol in to thinking it’s a normal PS4 pad to get round Ubisofts disabling off such devices even on Ubisoft Owen terms and conditions that ever player agree to here it’s is in full

DISCIPLINARY POLICY:

In the event of a Code of Conduct violation, disciplinary action will be taken. Depending on the seriousness of the violation, sanctions can range from a warning to a permanent ban.

Below are examples of behavior that could lead to your account being banned from playing online or restricting your access in other ways from the Game:

Cheating / Modding / Hacking: Player is running a modified or otherwise unauthorized version of the Game client or a third party software which provides any sort of unfair advantage (wallhacks, aimhacks…) or causing detriment to other players’ experience: Maximum penalty is permanent ban.



https://rainbow6.ubisoft.com/siege/e...ode-of-conduct

[FindFixFinish]

All devices apart from the normal PS4 pad is disabled bye Ubisoft you can’t just plug in a mouse and keyboard and it will work official or not the horta tack pro is disabled you have to get a 3rd party product that plugs in and tricks the consol in to thinking it’s a normal PS4 pad to get round Ubisofts disabling off such devices even on Ubisoft Owen terms and conditions that ever player agree to here it’s is in full

DISCIPLINARY POLICY:

In the event of a Code of Conduct violation, disciplinary action will be taken. Depending on the seriousness of the violation, sanctions can range from a warning to a permanent ban.

Below are examples of behavior that could lead to your account being banned from playing online or restricting your access in other ways from the Game:

Cheating / Modding / Hacking: Player is running a modified or otherwise unauthorized version of the Game client or a third party software which provides any sort of unfair advantage (wallhacks, aimhacks…) or causing detriment to other players’ experience: Maximum penalty is permanent ban.



https://rainbow6.ubisoft.com/siege/e...ode-of-conduct

What has Ubisoft said about the keyboard adapter?

[Kenny324410]

What has Ubisoft said about the keyboard adapter?

It’s right there in thay terms and conditions

third party software which provides any sort of unfair advantage is the xim not a 3rd party software yes it’s all so 3rd party hardware has well considered the fact that xim uses its own software not lissond by Sony makes it 3rd party witch means it brakes Ubisoft terms and conditions

[FindFixFinish]

It’s right there in thay terms and conditions

third party software which provides any sort of unfair advantage is the xim not a 3rd party software yes it’s all so 3rd party hardware has well considered the fact that xim uses its own software not lissond by Sony makes it 3rd party witch means it brakes Ubisoft terms and conditions

So actually, either it's you that's wrong, as it's only you're opinion that using a keyboard adapter is cheating. Or, the keyboard adapter is hard to detect, making it difficult to enforce the rules. Or, the rules simply don't apply to keyboard adapters.

If the latter is the case then Ubisoft may need to consult Sony and Microsoft to get permission for banning players for using a keyboard adapter. Which could in turn mean updating the EULA if the current clauses in the EULA do not sufficiently cover the use of keyboard adapters. Presumably, any EULA changes would also require approval from Sony and Microsoft. They might not be keen to approve the outlawing of products which enable the use of products which they make money from.

On PC there is a cheating pandemic. You can watch videos about how to bypass BattlEye, how to make cheats or just watch players cheating. There are hundreds of websites purporting to sell cheats. What do you think they do about all that? 'Not much' is the correct answer.

Good luck getting it sorted. I think it's a disgraceful situation all round.

[Kenny324410]

So actually, either it's you that's wrong, as it's only you're opinion that using a keyboard adapter is cheating. Or, the keyboard adapter is hard to detect, making it difficult to enforce the rules. Or, the rules simply don't apply to keyboard adapters.

If the latter is the case then Ubisoft may need to consult Sony and Microsoft to get permission for banning players for using a keyboard adapter. Which could in turn mean updating the EULA if the current clauses in the EULA do not sufficiently cover the use of keyboard adapters. Presumably, any EULA changes would also require approval from Sony and Microsoft. They might not be keen to approve the outlawing of products which enable the use of products which they make money from.

On PC there is a cheating pandemic. You can watch videos about how to bypass BattlEye, how to make cheats or just watch players cheating. There are hundreds of websites purporting to sell cheats. What do you think they do about all that? 'Not much' is the correct answer.

Good luck getting it sorted. I think it's a disgraceful situation all round.

And that had been Ubisoft stans in older threads contact Sony and Microsoft but then Microsoft hit out with this that developers all ready have the tools to ban them and thay thay takeing a stand on it it’s just pass the buck at the moment develops blaming Sony and Microsoft and Microsoft hiting back with don’t talk crap we have gave yous the tools use them


https://gearnuke.com/microsoft-helpi...-for-xbox-one/