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  1. #21
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    If this game was only about reaction and timing, there would be no tier list, yet there is, go figured. Some hero are stronger/easier than others, and Pk is one of them, deal with it.

    And honestly, after a full year in S Tier, it would not be bad for her and her "player main" to be in trash tier, even just for a few months, just so they feel what it is.
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    Originally Posted by Baggin_ Go to original post
    For me either highlanders cabertoss tracking needs reduced a bit or the guaranteed unblockable heavy he gets from it needs the damage reduced.
    If HL is just raw throwing a caber toss it's still easy as fudge to side dodge. and if he's kick canceling into it you can either space the kick out or stuff it with a fast attack.
    HL needs every scrap of damage he's gotten. Maybe if he got a better heavy parry punish I could see a slight tone down. maybe.

    Originally Posted by Specialkha Go to original post
    Basically, Kensei needs to be tone down, or everyone else need to be upgrade to be on par. I know that every OG hero will get a rework, but how long do we have to wait for that? Took them 1 year to nerf parry I dare to remind you.

    Shaman/Glad/PK need a nerf as well.

    Damage feats should be removed/reworked/toned down in 4v4.

    On a side note, they really need to improve stability because there is a lot of connection issues, especially when you are in a party.
    I don't see why kensei needs messing with at all. you can literally stonewall and block anything he soft feints from his neutral top heavy. and if you know he's going to pommel because you've consistently blocked everything else he's canceled you can stuff it with a fast attack. Or literally back dash since it has no forward lunge range. OR any dodge bash/attack beat it since it has no side tracking. His side dodge attacks are super unsafe for him because they're super long and easily baited. And due to his 700ms dodge recovery even if you don't parry you can just dodge and GB him for free.


    Originally Posted by Tecknoterrorist Go to original post
    i think ubisoft need to CANCEL tracking skills, this is completly nosense. if i dodge you i dodge, stop! this make more balance the game
    Every single move in the game has some tracking to it. Literally. Asking them to remove it when attacks that should land whiff rather often is just stupid. Maybe you should learn to dodge properly instead of asking the devs to had the game to you.
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  3. #23
    Originally Posted by Specialkha Go to original post
    And yet Pk is still considered as a S tier hero, go figured. As are Shaman and Glad, they also need to be toned down. Kensei is maybe not S Tier but he is a solid A tier hero. But dodge attack are now too strong. Before, ppl would just parry everything and did not use those, but now that reward from parry have been lowered, you see dodge attack everywhere, and some hero (HL to name it but some others do as well) have great difficulty to fight that kind of tactics.
    If we're talking duels shaman isn't S tier. she's A tier now. zerk has nearly replaced pk as the best hero in the game.
    She's a good safe hero. that's about it. Oh and her option select. Zerk does everything else that she does but far better.
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    Originally Posted by Specialkha Go to original post
    If this game was only about reaction and timing, there would be no tier list, yet there is, go figured. Some hero are stronger/easier than others, and Pk is one of them, deal with it.

    And honestly, after a full year in S Tier, it would not be bad for her and her "player main" to be in trash tier, even just for a few months, just so they feel what it is.
    pk isn't good because of a good kit. she's good because she's a safe kit.
    Pre parry changes this wouldn't be the case. But now it and her option select are all she's got.
    and sorry but there is never a good reason to make anything trash.
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    First I am talking mostly about 4v4, but sometimes you can get a 1v1 on these modes, but that is quite rare but still.
    Second, her pounce while you re bleeding is quite difficult to dodge with hero that have a short dodge range (Mainly Hl, but I am quite sure some others do as well).
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    Originally Posted by Specialkha Go to original post
    First I am talking mostly about 4v4, but sometimes you can get a 1v1 on these modes, but that is quite rare but still.
    Second, her pounce while you re bleeding is quite difficult to dodge with hero that have a short dodge range (Mainly Hl, but I am quite sure some others do as well).
    Was dodging it on HL consistently 2 days ago.
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    Originally Posted by Knight_Raime Go to original post
    If we're talking duels shaman isn't S tier. she's A tier now. zerk has nearly replaced pk as the best hero in the game.
    She's a good safe hero. that's about it. Oh and her option select. Zerk does everything else that she does but far better.
    I know you play duels almost exclusively, so when you say zerk replaced PK as the best hero in the game you mean in Duels, or in this instance are you speaking in just general terms across all game modes? Even so, I wouldn't call Zerk the best hero in the game now. I think that title would fall to Gladiator, but that's just my opinion as a 4v4 player. I know its not the same due to gear score, but I'm a lot more worried when fighting a Glad in a 1v1 (in Dom) over fighting a Zerker.
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    Zerker is, by far, better than PK now. Hyperarmor in chains, 400ms second light or after a heavy feint, best deflect in the game, access to unblockables to force reactions. All of this is something he has in his favor. PK has a 400ms Zone, that is her only thing "better" than Zerker because his is 500ms. Go figure...
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    Originally Posted by ChampionRuby50g Go to original post
    I know you play duels almost exclusively, so when you say zerk replaced PK as the best hero in the game you mean in Duels, or in this instance are you speaking in just general terms across all game modes? Even so, I wouldn't call Zerk the best hero in the game now. I think that title would fall to Gladiator, but that's just my opinion as a 4v4 player. I know its not the same due to gear score, but I'm a lot more worried when fighting a Glad in a 1v1 (in Dom) over fighting a Zerker.
    Duels. I'm not sure how the roster sits with 4v4.

    Glad literally can't do anything to a good zerker.
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    Originally Posted by The_B0G_ Go to original post
    Lol so you basically want him as he was before his buff, which was the weakest hero in the game..
    Well no, but unless you're an assassin or kensei and he does his kick into caber toss it's near impossible to dodge. If they reduce the damage from the guaranteed heavy it won't kill you in 3 to 4 easy hits. But reduce the damage of it ONLY after the caber toss, it should do the damage it does now if he hits you normally or hits you with his kick.
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