In all seriousness, I’m boycotting Shaman. | Forums

[Vakris_One]

I never will understand this weak minded mentality. Some people would rather sulk in a corner because it's easier than putting in a little bit of effort into adapting an approach against a character they are weak against.

Your choice.

[VeniVidiViciBra]

I don't find it fun to fight shugoki.
or someone that turtles constantly.
I don't dc though.

Yeah I don't think dcing is the answer. The shaman is obviously here to stay but personally it's made the game frustrating on a whole other level. I would take a shugoki or turtle any day over a shaman

[Knight_Raime]

Yeah I don't think dcing is the answer. The shaman is obviously here to stay but personally it's made the game frustrating on a whole other level. I would take a shugoki or turtle any day over a shaman

I personally don't struggle against a majority of people who play shaman in duels.
Blocking right and reacting to top or left completely shuts our her wildcats rage regardless of distance.
And if she's foolish enough to try and dodge mix up in your face a GB or fast light will screw her.
Her left UB heavy mix up is only a threat if she manages to hitstun you with a confirmed hit. And even in that situation it's slow enough and telegraphed enough that (IMO) it's easy to react to whatever they do from it.
and due to the parry changes she can't reliably get bleed in to threaten with bite unless you're really good at getting deflects.

I'm not saying she isn't a handful to deal with for average players or below. but she's not as godly as people make her sound. at least in duels.
I can't speak on 4v4.

[Burn-The-Sinner]

I never will understand this weak minded mentality. Some people would rather sulk in a corner because it's easier than putting in a little bit of effort into adapting an approach against a character they are weak against.

Your choice.

It's not a weak minded mentality, it's normal rational human mentality. When you go to a restaurant and you're served literal ****, you don't eat that ****, you reject the ****, stand up, leave that dump of restaurant and go to the competition. Only that there aren't currently any restaurants so you're stuck in the dump. You only choice is to simply reject the **** every time they serve it.

So unless you're a dog, stop eating ****. Human don't eat ****. Of course, humans can override a lot of their instincts. One can decide to kill their kids, instead of protecting them, or eat **** instead of rejecting just to prove that point. But that is ******ed. Humans should not be ******ed.

[Card1acArrest]

I think his point is related to 4v4,
Not that many play duels really.. I never see very high activity for duels, but always in 4v4.

In 4v4, Shaman does not show on the radar, and if there is more than 1 enemy, she can be really tricky to defend against as she is so fast, in particular those jump attacks. Add a bleed and a jump and you are dead. And you can add her jump-bump to the list She also has a very high run-speed..

If you have 2 shaman on other team, it just becomes a bloody mess.

It is also very difficult to run away from a 1v2 situation when there is a shaman following you, shen can jump 10 meters in 0,5 seconds and hit you in the back. Your only option is to fight or to roll with perfect timing..

I hardly ever see ANY shaman with a kill score less than 3x her death score, often it can be 10-2 or 15-2 or up to 20 kills and hardly any deaths.
Many of those players are not really very good.

it is not rare to see a shaman keeping on hitting while OOS in particular if its more than 1v1 in the 4v4. Just shows they are used to just steamrolling the enemies too easily?.


What also happens is that half the shaman quit after a few rounds because they are disgusted by their own (very good) performance . It is just boring.

[Tirik22x]

Yeah I don't think dcing is the answer. The shaman is obviously here to stay but personally it's made the game frustrating on a whole other level. I would take a shugoki or turtle any day over a shaman

Exactly. It’s simply not cool... fighting one or two ppl, then get hit from off screen by something that kills you from half health? Sweet. Duels aren’t the problem, it’s any 4v4.

You kno it’s bad when my girlfriend was watching me yesterday, and she has absolutely no clue about how this game works... yet she asks “who thought it was a good idea to put a character like that in the game?”.

[Alustar.exe]

Exactly. It’s simply not cool... fighting one or two ppl, then get hit from off screen by something that kills you from half health? Sweet. Duels aren’t the problem, it’s any 4v4.

You kno it’s bad when my girlfriend was watching me yesterday, and she has absolutely no clue about how this game works... yet she asks “who thought it was a good idea to put a character like that in the game?”.

Actually that just means she's is the type to form an opinion quickly, and with very little information. That's not bad on Ubisoft's part, that's a character flaw on the part of your girlfriend, lol.

[Alustar.exe]

It's not a weak minded mentality, it's normal rational human mentality. When you go to a restaurant and you're served literal ****, you don't eat that ****, you reject the ****, stand up, leave that dump of restaurant and go to the competition. Only that there aren't currently any restaurants so you're stuck in the dump. You only choice is to simply reject the **** every time they serve it.

So unless you're a dog, stop eating ****. Human don't eat ****. Of course, humans can override a lot of their instincts. One can decide to kill their kids, instead of protecting them, or eat **** instead of rejecting just to prove that point. But that is ******ed. Humans should not be ******ed.

Lmao, there is not one single accurate piece of information on the post. First off, bad comparison of restaurant to game company. Worst possible comparison I've seen lately. Next, dogs don't eat **** either unless they are abuse victims. But with an online handle like Lord buttsnitch I can't expect you to have the where with all to fact check.

[Veerdin-Wraith]

Man... The sheer dramatics on display from both sides of this argument is something else...

Shaman is overpowered. I don't think we need to argue about this, she's got too much versatility, crazy throw distance, insane damage, and is unpredictable as hell to boot. She absolutely decimates the majority of the other classes in the game and can take far too much punishment for a crazed forest hermit wearing a few bits of dead wolf. She absolutely needs to be looked at, reworked and probably get some aspects nerfed.

But you don't need to go to such extremes about her. Boycotting, rage quitting and griefing other players won't get anything done. If anything, your best option would be to post potential ideas for a rework for her, rather than just endlessly complaining.

[Vakris_One]

It's not a weak minded mentality, it's normal rational human mentality. When you go to a restaurant and you're served literal ****, you don't eat that ****, you reject the ****, stand up, leave that dump of restaurant and go to the competition. Only that there aren't currently any restaurants so you're stuck in the dump. You only choice is to simply reject the **** every time they serve it.

So unless you're a dog, stop eating ****. Human don't eat ****. Of course, humans can override a lot of their instincts. One can decide to kill their kids, instead of protecting them, or eat **** instead of rejecting just to prove that point. But that is ******ed. Humans should not be ******ed.

Gotta be honest here, almost half of what you wrote is nonsense. This is a video game company not a restaurant and your analogy of food doesn't really work for this particular issue.

As to the relevant part: what happens when you don't consider Shaman to be particularly difficult to go up against and ergo she doesn't make you pee your pants with rage when you see her in the matchmaking screen? What the OP is doing is throwing a tantrum instead of developing their skill in countering that character. Either because of lazyness or self-entitlement or anger management issues or whatever other reason these types of threads always represent a refusal to up one's own game in both in-game skill and real life emotional control. That's what I call being weak minded. You may not agree and that's fine too.