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[Lunatriptika]

Can we change his new zone attack pleeeease ?
It's awful for the one who fight him it's faster than a light and does more damage than a light. Even if he does 2 move before he can canceled it, there's not even a window to punish him. Or it must be reaaaally really small.

We already have the PK, now the warden *intensifies*, the orochi... Ok, ok. Now the Kensei

+ the lag compensation ...

He's already powerful enough, can break through defense with a free light attack, heavy dodge side, 50/50 top heavy into a side heavy with hyper armor. Everything is fine but the zone attack in my opinion.

[Jolvark]

Kensei rework its colpete nonsense crap, now he has a perfect answer for everything, super armor for everything, long range on almost all his attacks and also fast unpredictible attacks like his zone, he was a weak hero and needed a buff, but this is complete ********, even shamans are weaker than kensei now.

[Vartan79]

Lol.
His zone is fast, but its block and parryable..maybe you should learn to fight him. He isn`t that strong.

And no, he isn`t OP....he is just up to the most of the heros. There are still some Heros, much strionger. Learn to fight him and dont come here to the forum, after you lost a match against a good player and ....

.....PLEASE stop crying!!!!!!

[Knight_Raime]

it's 500ms just like warden and rochi's zone.

[Lunatriptika]

Lol.
His zone is fast, but its block and parryable..maybe you should learn to fight him. He isn`t that strong.

And no, he isn`t OP....he is just up to the most of the heros. There are still some Heros, much strionger. Learn to fight him and dont come here to the forum, after you lost a match against a good player and ....

.....PLEASE stop crying!!!!!!

No need to be personnal. I know how to fight, I love this game, I've been playing since the release and saw all the changes about this it. The first hit of his zone is terribly fast and annoying. The problem is, at one point, you will focusing only on that attack and every move you do (depending the character) can be punished easily with that attack.

You can't even parry it unless you premeditating the move. All you can do is block. And like I said network make his zone attack faster than it should be so it's even worse.

it's 500ms just like warden and rochi's zone.

The first hit last 500 ms, it's not the same thing. Warden and Orochi zone attack is 400 ms.

[Vakris_One]

What would you prefer his zone to be like? Keeping in mind Warden, PK, Orochi, Warlord, Aramusha and Nobushi all have generally the same speed on their zones and will likely be keeping them after their reworks/tweaks.

Why should the Kensei not have access to that kind of zone when they already do?

[Lunatriptika]

What would you prefer his zone to be like? Keeping in mind Warden, PK, Orochi, Warlord, Aramusha and Nobushi all have generally the same speed on their zones and will likely be keeping them after their reworks/tweaks.

Why should the Kensei not have access to that kind of zone when they already do?

Warlord, Aramusha & Nobushi are easier to be blocked or parried and if one of them miss their zone on his/her opponent you can punish them. Kensei, you can't.
I tried many time, there may be a window just after he canceled the zone after the two hits. But it's extremely short. No punish in the end. That's what I despite.

Why ? He has so many tools to mindtrick his opponent now, I feel like this move is the cherry on top of the cherry on the cake. Isn't it too much ?
I understand his previous zone attack was kinda bad. But do all the heroes must have this type sanic-fast zone attack ? Maybe, if it's to compensate with the lack of combo possibilities.

I think the best would be to keep this one but tweak the speed of the first but, or at least implement a punishment.

[Vakris_One]

Warlord, Aramusha & Nobushi are easier to be blocked or parried and if one of them miss their zone on his/her opponent you can punish them. Kensei, you can't.

I tried many time, there may be a window just after he canceled the zone after the two hits. But it's extremely short. No punish in the end. That's what I despite.

Yes you can. If Kensei misses his zone you can absolutely hit him with a free 400-500ms light or use a dodge attack to bypass it. The problem is his zone tracks you from a long distance away so it's pretty hard to a) be out of range of it and b) get in range of him in time if he missed you with it.

Also, the first part of Aramusha's zone is as fast as PK/Orochi/Warden zones.

Why ? He has so many tools to mindtrick his opponent now, I feel like this move is the cherry on top of the cherry on the cake. Isn't it too much ?
I understand his previous zone attack was kinda bad. But do all the heroes must have this type sanic-fast zone attack ? Maybe, if it's to compensate with the lack of combo possibilities.

I think the best would be to keep this one but tweak the speed of the first but, or at least implement a punishment.

If I had my way nobody would have a 400ms zone. Instead the zone would be more a weapon of opportunity or a counter attack rather than a super fast opener from neutral and a 50/50 mind game.

Alas, the devs seem fond of using 400ms zones as the mind game openers of choice from neutral. The Kensei's zone in my opinion needs its long tracking range to be reduced as it currently propels the Kensei forward by quite a lot. In addition I feel like all 400-500ms zones should be punishable on block so they aren't so easy to abuse.

[Vartan79]

Sorry, I didnt want to be personnal....but its always the same. Aweak hero gets so e buffs and so many people shout for a nerf. I understand you... I often have Situation in which I see other Heros in an advantage...but I dont think we should do too many quick changes and nerfes. We should rework the heros snd try to buff weak ones.

No, we can t change his zone. Kensei just was set up to one Level with others. It would be too stupid to nerf him because all those Babys cry for a nerf because they lost a fight. Learn to handle i!

And just remember a lot of other heros are much stronger, faster.
Which hero is your main?

[IsDoR13]

Kensei became very strong. But he is NOT an assassin, but an avant-garde player. However, now he is a full-fledged assassin and this is a palpable imbalance with a preponderance of the samurai