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[Devils-_-legacy]

Tundra didnt see you replied lol true some Katana are very poor but i was speaking more about the masamunes way by any chance is the pig iron maru steel? And katanas are traditionally made from a specialized Japanese steel called tamahagane,which is created from a traditional smelting process that results in several, layered steels with different carbon concentrations.This process helps remove impurities and even out the carbon content of the steel(folding) The age of the steel plays a role in the ability to remove impurities, with older steel having a higher oxygen concentration, being more easily stretched and rid of impurities during hammering, resulting in a stronger blade. But it ultimatly Depends on on the style of the smithy used for the katana for eg maru steel resulted in a poor brittle blade were as masamunes way soshu kitae I can't spell it but it's close to this (several layers method) is considered one of the best of his time

[Tundra 793]

way by any chance is the pig iron maru steel? And katanas are traditionally made from a specialized Japanese steel called tamahagane,which is created from a traditional smelting process that results in several, layered steels with different carbon concentrations.

To be honest I have no idea, the Japanese has tonnes of different terms for their iron, and my knowledge on the subject is based on Western blacksmithing, which today identifies steel types with various grading systems, not necessarily names.
But Tamahagane historically, would have been of pig iron quality, i.e. having a high carbon content. As I've understood it, good Tamahagane for use in swordmaking, shouldn't have a carbon content higher than around 1-1.5%, but in the age of the Samurai, it could have been as high as 4-4.5%, making it quite brittle.
I believe European swords made before the 12th century often had carbon contents lower than 1%, but rarely exceeding 2%.

Obviously modern Japanese swords can be made much more effeciently and with consistently lower carbon contents, but historically, they were far from the greatest of swords.

Hey that’s very interesting! Thanks for the info ��

My pleasure, glad you enjoyed it.

[EvoX.]

Well, I'm glad you were wrong.

Maybe this is the start of the Knights' era?

[Devils-_-legacy]

True they held sword making as more of art from then we did but I was raised on swords and bos so is was kinda forced onto me with the knowledge(I do admit i may have goten some of the names wrong i havnt ever bothered re reading up on it lol)but my teacher had a very old & authentic katana and it still hold true but I was tought quite quickly the difference between the maru or pig iron katanas and there counter parts the more brittle ones stay bent and the hamon would get destroyed quite quickly.
I was also more on the technical way it's made from the smithing technique for example using the same type of ore with the same carbon content I would wager the katana would come out a more effective blade Imo (also glad to see your still lurking around the fourms )

[Tundra 793]

True they held sword making as more of art from then we did but I was raised on swords and bos so is was kinda forced onto me with the knowledge(I do admit i may have goten some of the names wrong i havnt ever bothered re reading up on it lol)but my teacher had a very old & authentic katana and it still hold true but I was tought quite quickly the difference between the maru or pig iron katanas and there counter parts the more brittle ones stay bent and the hamon would get destroyed quite quickly.

I'll take your word for it, personally I've always found Japanese swords, Katanas specifically, to be the most overrated weapons of all time.
Not sure I'd say the Japanese people treated is more as an art form though, but they certainly devoted considerable effort and traditions, strict practices and sincere reverence to the crafting and care of them, I imagine the effort and fragility of them made them treasure and care for them with extreme devotion compared to other nations'.

Vikings, for comparison, in spite of their religion were first and foremost a pragmatic people. A sword in the end, was just a sword.

I was also more on the technical way it's made from the smithing technique for example using the same type of ore with the same carbon content I would wager the katana would come out a more effective blade Imo

It would be better for slicing/cutting. The curved blades deliver the kinetic energy from a swing differently to straight edged swords, hence their later use in mounted combat. Straight edged swords, European/Viking swords in particular, had a tapered point that excelled in stabbing, being able to pierce even chainmail in one stroke.
It's hard to compare different sword types to each other, as they were intended for different purposes.

(also glad to see your still lurking around the fourms )

Aye, I've still got plenty of friends and interests here, so I'll still be checking in from to time, but feel free to PM me if you, or anyone else for that matter, wanna talk about something specific and I miss reading the For Honor forums.

[Vakris_One]

Well, I'm glad you were wrong.

Maybe this is the start of the Knights' era?

I doubt it unless the devs adjusted things to loosen up the "balancing". I still think the balancing is way off the way the FW has been going and This order hasn't really convinced me otherwise. Not to mention the executions were easily farmeable by loading up a PvAI Tribute match with matchmaking turned off and spending a couple hours grinding executions.

I'd be very interested in knowing which faction the top 10 players were from. I know that at least 3 players who were all in first place at different times were Samurai.

I'll take your word for it, personally I've always found Japanese swords, Katanas specifically, to be the most overrated weapons of all time.
Not sure I'd say the Japanese people treated is more as an art form though, but they certainly devoted considerable effort and traditions, strict practices and sincere reverence to the crafting and care of them, I imagine the effort and fragility of them made them treasure and care for them with extreme devotion compared to other nations'.

Vikings, for comparison, in spite of their religion were first and foremost a pragmatic people. A sword in the end, was just a sword.

Worth noting is that the Vikings and Europeans had different kinds of beliefs about the world around them. The Japanese held a belief that inanimate objects such as swords could hold in them the spirit of previous owners or even be attributed to divine entities. The uniquely Japanese religion of Shintoism for example was all about how everything was connected by a kind of spiritual energy that binds everything together. If this sounds familiar it's because George Lucas drew his inspiration for the "Force" in Star Wars from this aspect of Shintoism.

It would be better for slicing/cutting. The curved blades deliver the kinetic energy from a swing differently to straight edged swords, hence their later use in mounted combat. Straight edged swords, European/Viking swords in particular, had a tapered point that excelled in stabbing, being able to pierce even chainmail in one stroke.
It's hard to compare different sword types to each other, as they were intended for different purposes.

Indeed. If I were facing an armoured opponent I would go with a straight edged European sword for its potential to pierce and be used in a half swording technique to deal blunt force damage. If on the other hand I were facing a lightly armoured opponent I would favour the curved egded Katana for its superior cutting and slicing potential.

[zcubed]

First: 'real' weapon logic doesn't apply in this game. Second: What 'balance', all I see is blatant favoritism towards Vikings. Third: Knights are winning.

[zcubed]

Knights won 160000 ahead of Samurai.

[Xinlyfenne]

I'd be very interested in knowing which faction the top 10 players were from. I know that at least 3 players who were all in first place at different times were Samurai.

The rankings were for each faction. So if you're a Samurai, you'd see the top 3 Samurai in the rankings; also that was why there was such a great disparity between the top 3.