Medic class needs to be re-addressed | Forums

[smoothcrimes]

Top 3 lol. You make it seem like the PP19 is an assault. I would say its Top 3 in the SMG category or even Support class. I wouldn't say top 3 overall. All support guns are trash when it comes to Assaults and Marksman except Diversionist. The Scout is ok stating specifically MPX and MDR. If the MP7 had more damage even a tiny inch it would be a beast. Artillery is the worst class in support and ability. Medic PP19 was suitable but not instant kill. I myself use the MPX and I have to do extra stuff to kill marksman and predator to actually down them rather than just generally shoot like the assault guns can do. So the medic does need some improvement. I say the OP #4 will be best. Give the drone some more health and it will become balance. Or secondary #2 give it better weapons or weapon buff.

Trust me. I use the guns in all ranges.

Long Range
- I only single shot to make sure I hit them at a distance

Mid to Short Range
- Rapid fire, hip fire, etc...

Its good for use if you flank or if the target is not moving. However, if the target is moving rather you iron sight or over the shoulder against an assault player with athletic sprinter its a challenge to take them down. Its not impossible but you definitely see that recoil and the bullets that doesn't hit when your gun is shooting while moving. I not talking about new players, I talking about against high prestige players.

Damage drop off

[ROWEMEISTER]

A strobing blue light and a siren for the drone would be better

[FNDMNTAL]

Medic shoud be medic and nothing more, everyone knows how irritating is run away from enemies when you are last man standing and two drones are hunting you (medic) and something else. I think medic drone should not be able to gather visual intel at all!

I suggest that the medic selects the victim's from map and drone flies the way to rescue the victim automatically. Of course there is booby traps and corner campers.
Therefore medic drone should have ability to observe this and not make revive at all. I think corner camping observation could be inside the 2m radius.

To balance this, drone must be one shot kill. Also when drone is moving the spread should be increased. This could balance for one shot thing.

Could this force medic back on his roots?


Crawling mechanics? I dont see any benefit on this. Why to put yourself to danger, especially medic? There is always sniper and/or sentinel watching easy target with high power rifles. It´s just bang and you are dead. Totally unnecessary feature.


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[nicolas.rumet]

People are playing medic less often for a reason.

If the medic was as good as some of people here say, then we'll see it chosen as often as pointman, sentinel, sniper etc... but it's not.

It has undergone two nerfs: one first secret nerf that reduced the HP of the drone. And a second nerf that reduced drone visibility delay from 6 to 1.

PP19 doesn't have the range. Trying to make it look like it's such a good weapon is pointless because it's false. I'd rather use ACR, M16, or any sentinel/sniper weapon rather than use the PP19.

I'm not saying medic should have a weapon as good as ACR, but considering that its drone became almost useless now (unless you're playing against noobs who dont shoot down drones), might as well completely revamp the class or give players another reason to play the class. Because right now, when the developers take a look at the pick rate for this class, they'll see that people dont pick it often anymore.

[GodhandR]

People are playing medic less often for a reason.

If the medic was as good as some of people here say, then we'll see it chosen as often as pointman, sentinel, sniper etc... but it's not.

It has undergone two nerfs: one first secret nerf that reduced the HP of the drone. And a second nerf that reduced drone visibility delay from 6 to 1.

PP19 doesn't have the range. Trying to make it look like it's such a good weapon is pointless because it's false. I'd rather use ACR, M16, or any sentinel/sniper weapon rather than use the PP19.

I'm not saying medic should have a weapon as good as ACR, but considering that its drone became almost useless now (unless you're playing against noobs who dont shoot down drones), might as well completely revamp the class or give players another reason to play the class. Because right now, when the developers take a look at the pick rate for this class, they'll see that people dont pick it often anymore.

I’m not too sure where you play, but I personally see medic all of the time and see it used extremely effectively. Of course there will be rounds of good and bad play, but Medic is still riding around in the Pointmans backpack. I would wager to say I see med at least 65% of my matches, only dropped due to occasional 2 man quick play and barring my buddy who tends to take medic.

[Shaka_Zulu10]

People are using medic less is complete BS. Its the most game changing class in terms of its godly ability to turn the tide of a match quickly with the drone, plus is well used in mining yourself into a building keeping a full team busy while you do it etc. Medic is one of the most used classes with Pointman, scout etc.



And no the medic doesnt need changes, only change I could see as understandable is having quick hands as passive ability, but its already a very flexible and high impact class in hands of a good player.



Case in point, watch pro league matches, every single match has a medic and a Pointman, the other 2 classes change, but those stay the same pretty much.

[MurdahDem]

please stop - this was painful to read . . . i dont think you proofread what you wrote...

[RAW81WW]

This used to be my primary class.

Although I felt the drone was a bit OP, the latest patch nerfed it more than it was needed.

Not only medic drones can get easily shot down by technically any gun... but they become visible right away always giving enemy enough time to shoot them down.

The usefulness of this class is now questioned, compared to the sentinel, sniper, scout, diversionist and assault classes, who have much better advantages.

In my opinion, a buff is needed, and there are multiple possibilities (a combination of two of these would work):

1. Increase drone deployment delay from one second to 3 seconds.

2. Give the class a better weapon like the scout, or buff its existing weapons;

3. Give it fast hands for revives as another special ability.

4.Increase the HP of the drone.

I AGREE 100%, I hate playing medic but because of the ridiculous match making in this game it is needed every single match I play. That being said, 1 second to 3 second delay is warranted, not only because they shoot it dow right way but it immediately gives your position away as a medic, and a dead medic is not a good medic. I try to play away from my team as a medic for that reason but it still gives away my position, and as I am trying to navigate the slowest drone in the game it gives the opposing team ample opportunity to sneak me from behind and step on my head.

I think the pp19 is a wicked gun for the class but it could use a bit of a buff. The p416 is terrible.

[IlTaKe_NoTeZIl]

i agree to a extent... The guns are utterly trash imo, but what ruined the class was the fact that not only was the maneuverability nerfed but its instantly displayed now. When it wasn't instantly displayed an they nerfed the maneuverability it wasn't to bad. But since the double nerf lol the classes drone is pure garbage now. As for the weapons there's no reason the pp19 should be better than the P416. def need a p416 buffed. been asking for this since release either it needs a recoil nerf or damage buff.

[Set4X]

Medic is a great class as it is. The one sec dealy on drone is only a problem because it gives the medic position away. The other problem is if the drone detection is delayed too much than medics can revive teammates without any risks.(drones not being detected at all on some occasions)
My proposal is give the drone a 3 sec detection time, that way it won't give the medic's position away but a 5-6 sec delay on revive ability so the enemy would still have some time to react.